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BadDog
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Hand held speed guns Reply with quote

Where's the post about hand held speed guns being innacurate? My web page usage is monitored at work so I can't keep hitting pages on the same web site a lot.

Needless to say, got done yesterday Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 13:39 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this site

https://www.pepipoo.com/
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the link I was thinking of.

Do you think it's worth contesting, because I'm sure I wasn't going as fast as they say I was?
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How fast did they say you were going ?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

49 in a 30. The guy in question had the laser in his hand and they got me from a distance of 950 feet (increasing the margin of error?)

The point that I'm interested in in Kickstarts post is the following:
BBC TV programme "Inside Out" have been testing a laser speed meter, and will broadcast this evening a film showing two laser speed meters pointing at the same vehicle showing markedly different speeds...
...Under UK law, offences must be proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt'


Initially, I'm going to ask for the calibration certificate of the laser, but wondered if it was worth going to court over the innacuracy issue.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have thought that going to court to test the innacuracy of the speed gun would cost an awful lot of money.
I can't remember correctly but I think there was a guy in MCN a few weeks ago who got a no win no fee lawyer to take on his case. He was using the same argument as you. How long it will take I don't know.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

There was a piece in MCN about it. Had a quick search on SafeSpeed but could not find much except a link to this press release, although you might need a Yahoo Groups account to view it:-

https://groups.yahoo.com/group/SafeSpeedPR/message/87

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PostPosted: 17:21 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Keith,

This link is also very interesting...

Specifically:
It is quite possible for the signal from a large vehicle some distance behind a smaller vehicle to override the signal from the nearer vehicle. - There was a car behind me.

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HANDHELD RADARS MUST BE AIMED AT YOUR BIKE FOR A MINIMUM OF THREE SECONDS FOR A VALID CHECK, WITHIN A DISTANCE OF 200 METRES - they measured me from 941 feet - 286.8 metres!

The link dates from 2001 though, so I hope the law hasn't changed.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Probably also depends on whether it is laser or radar.

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:21 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and I've forgone access to evidence because I signed at the roadside. Doh. Meaning I won't be able to find out if it was radar or laser until the court case. Didn't think about contesting it until after the fact.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The MUST give you the evidence before the court case. However they try and minimise your chances by giving it to you as late as possible (week or so before the court date).

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate, I'm going to contest this one. Is it worth me writing all the points of contension in a letter to the Central Driving Offences Unit hoping they'll just drop it, or do they just sort out a date for the court case?
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pfft they aim one at me i am my gun back at them that normaly gets rid of them Wink
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure. The chances of them dropping it are virtually nill and they are more used to terrorising people into paying up without going to court.

I would suggest you speak you an experienced legal bod (check on Pepipoo as there are a few on there with reasonable rates), and it might well be worth keeping you powder dry, so to speak, until the court case.

The bit in MCN mentions someone taking it to court. Riders name is Yessin Meggaro and he is being represented by Kirwins Solicitors (in the Wirral) on 0151 608 9078.

All the best

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