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 Posted: 11:23 - 23 Sep 2005  Post subject: Wheelie clips (FAO yams + G) |
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Sadly i am pretty shite, and i have a habit of bouncing the limiter when im being filmed as im making too much of an effort to carry them.
But the third one in this quadlet is quite nice (the one my avatar is from).
Last one was a power wheelie, hence the shite ness
And yeh i chop the throttle, but the bike does stay steady so that at least vaguely proves what ive said about it hating wheelies. Really Really hates them. Front heavy overly high revving lump that it is.
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| Posted: 11:48 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: Re: Wheelie clips (FAO yams + G) |
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Hmmm, first, get a battery camera person and bette  .
For me, high revving is good for wheelies, means you can keep 'em going for longer.
I couldn't really tell from that clip, but maybe try starting clutched wheelies at lower rpm if you can? That way you've got more rpm to play with.
Otherwise, if you want to go further in the same gear, you've got to go higher.
Might be worth getting the bike on a dyno if the power delivery is a bit dodgy - at least so you know what's wrong with it.
You could also consider trying changing up - bikes are often smoother on one wheel in second. |
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| Posted: 11:55 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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Yeh i want to, but when i click it to second in the air at high revs it drops straight to neutral.
And it wont come up before high revs.
I start my wheelies rolling at about 20 ish in first, clutch, blip, out and its up.
But its only about 3k from redline. To start with.
Longest ive held a wheelie on it was about 10 seconds
But i can keep my mates ktm 250 2-stroke on the back wheel pretty much 11ed for whole roads, and go first-second etc (although no one warned me they lurch another foot upright when you do it... first time i did it i was staring at the headlight)
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| Posted: 12:00 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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If it's really 10 seconds, it's pretty decent  .
However I know I've done wheelies that I've thought lasted for ages - watched the video and counted - one thousand and one, one thousand and two, etc - and found it's not been long at all. |
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| Posted: 12:07 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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| G wrote: | If it's really 10 seconds, it's pretty decent .
However I know I've done wheelies that I've thought lasted for ages - watched the video and counted - one thousand and one, one thousand and two, etc - and found it's not been long at all. |
Yeh, i dont count though so its by ear... So probably closer to 5.
Well at least one with some decent height to it.
Any mug can get the front off the floor by a tiny bit and keep it there for the length of first.
I only rediscovered clutching up about a week ago. Ive been pretty much only doing power wheelies, and theres no comparison. Clutch is better. Feels more stable at height, less chop and see sawing etc. Just bang up, cruise out the revs and try and put it down before the limiter.
Note clips were stregically edited to avoid the crackling overrun noise of the limiter   
I try too hard to keep them up when being filmed
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| Posted: 15:55 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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You need to clutch from lower revs. Watch my BP video and hear the revs just drop... if you keep hitting the limiter like that then your bike will go pop, I speak from experience here when I was learning I blew my KTM up by hitting limiter.
You're getting neutral because your wheel isn't high enough at all really to change up. If you can wheely a KTM for a ages at 11 then you should be able to wheely the CBR easily, I found it transfered across easy and sports bikes are smoother/easier to balance out. My KTM has a high balance point and you need to get it straight up there or change gear quick else you start to lose power.
Just keep practicing, but I'd find somewhere better to practice, like a quiet industrial estate or something. Leave the on-road wheelies until you can do them a bit better IMO.
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| Posted: 17:16 - 23 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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| Sparks! wrote: | You need to clutch from lower revs. Watch my BP video and hear the revs just drop... if you keep hitting the limiter like that then your bike will go pop, I speak from experience here when I was learning I blew my KTM up by hitting limiter.
You're getting neutral because your wheel isn't high enough at all really to change up. If you can wheely a KTM for a ages at 11 then you should be able to wheely the CBR easily, I found it transfered across easy and sports bikes are smoother/easier to balance out. My KTM has a high balance point and you need to get it straight up there or change gear quick else you start to lose power.
Just keep practicing, but I'd find somewhere better to practice, like a quiet industrial estate or something. Leave the on-road wheelies until you can do them a bit better IMO. |
True. The ktm was a 2 stroke however so no engine braking when you chop the throttle a tad. Also it was slightly downgeared if that made much difference.
Also i would use industrial areas but my wheelies tend to get rather fast rather quickly and i like to have plenty of run off.
Also as was said i only tend to hit the limiter when im being filmed, as i make so much of an effort to keep them up longer, rather then letting it down just before.
As for better area, that road is literally right outside my doorstep, so when a mate came round i collared him. Its the road EVERYONE goes flat out down anyway, its like the gp out there every sunday morning.
I think what i need is to be mean enough to slow right down on roads and then whack it up. Usually im keeping to about 30 ish and then bringing it up, which is perhaps a tad fast. That is still only 6k and the bike redlines at 15. But i suppose if its slower the revs will build slower to start with.
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| Posted: 10:05 - 27 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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what bike you riding?
On my blade.....i lift it off the power in 1st.........all depends on the launch which is soooo very true.......
and then at this height...........which is no where near the BP but a god height to change because if you lift abit more.....your still safe from flipping.
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Jewelly_boy/jewellwheelycock2.jpg
i change into 2nd but have only been able to do it within the last week.....make sure your chain is adjusted correctly as well.....dont want it flapping round a like a wizards sleeve.
I find that once i click into 2nd.......it will stay up as long as the road is smooth and not too much wind.......and is much much more exciting going at 75-90mph on the back wheel then geting ya knee down on the road......
but time and place etc. |
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| Posted: 13:25 - 27 Sep 2005 Post subject: |
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CBR 6
First just isnt smooth enough. You can /hear/ my throttle hand giving it some when its up, but does the bike move?
Nope.
Im doing that to smooth it out... 
Oh well, im now a student with a very fucked vfr 750 and lots of time. But it has got a sodding hydraulic clutch (and a suspected blown piston ring).
But still, can work on bringing it up from walking pretty much. and rolling burnouts.
Might even throw some new plates into it.
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| Posted: 15:48 - 01 Oct 2005 Post subject: |
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thanks man, i just try and clutch it up at the lowest revvs possible (sometimes like 2-3000rpm) so they're only like 5-25mph it's hard to stay in a straight line at that speed though! anyway sorry to topic hijack
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| Posted: 16:37 - 01 Oct 2005 Post subject: |
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Gotta admit those are sound wheelies...
Fast ones are more fun tho 
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