Low capacity bikes on rideouts?

[Visitor Q]

Right, i just want to know if im a twat for this.

I dont mind trundling with 125's on occasion, but thats to get somewhere. Rarely for shits and giggles.

If im arranging a rideout, i prefer to have equal ish bikes. So for my 600, non restricted 400-1000 is fine for a good paced rideout.

But what about if someone asked if you wanted a rideout, and they were on a 50cc bike? Or a 125 (4t, 2t wouldnt be that bad)?

Would you be interested. Would you expect a dull ride. Would you expect to get out of 2nd?
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[dodsi]

if lads come out on 2t 125's its not that bad.

On 4t 125's or 50's its a nightmare as its hard to ride a 600cc bike that slow.

[extreme3d]

On ride-outs i take part in (North user's) we often have 125 2t's joining. They're not slow enough to cause any problems, if fact some are pretty quick averaging 85-90mph no problems and they often take bends at almost suicidal lean angles to maintain that momentum

As a general rule we always make sure that everyone knows where we are going. One of us on bigger bikes stays at the back to keep an eye out and keep the cars off them (Always BMW's ) as they get seriously pissed being overtaken by an L plated RS125

Usually the group spilts up into two anyway those who like to ride fast and those who prefer to stick to 80ish speeds. As far as arriving at the a stoping point is concerned the difference is only around 2 minutes anyway.

[musclebiker]

[dodsi]

On the interests of making progress with smaller capacity bikes when you come to a car going say 50mph when a 125 may take a while to overtake, overtake the car on your big boys bike, jam on the anchors slow the car down and the boys on the 125's can overtake.

If the car tries to overtake you, speed up then slow it back down. sorted.

[extreme3d]

[Visitor Q]

[Visitor Q]

[extreme3d]

Seriously though, don't judge them by the bike they ride now as if its a 50cc bike (i.e. not a scoot) then they are almost certainly very keen to progress. There is usually someone in the group willing to take a pillion (or you can take turns) and if they ride a 50cc then chances are they are only 16ish and light as a feather anyway.

[musclebiker]

[Teaman]

im more than happy to go out for a ride with anyone on any sized bike,
ok, so some peeps here get a bit intimidated if there on a 50 and have a 1200 riding behind them or might feel inclined to be expected to try and keep up and go round corners like a mad man,.

Ill plod for aslong as i need to having the occasional blast,
Its all about setting an example, if you ride behind them you can give them pointers on how to ride. if there behind you they can watch and learn, the important thing is to have fun.
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[colin1]

I go about 60-80 on my rs125.

We did a ride out with a guy on a 50cc and he killled it trying to keep up. The guy at the front shd have gone slower for him. 50cc struggles to get near 60mph and I dont think his bike did it.

Ive recently passed my test but even if i get a big bike, im in no rush to be going faster than 60-80.

The probelm with small bikes is not when the road is clear, its when you need to overtake.

A small bike can easily get stuck behind something.

Even if i only ride at 60-80, it would be good to have a big bike to overtake safely.

Smaller bikes may have more reliability issues as they have to work harder and arent always maintained that well.

With any rideout, less capable riders and bikes can be tempted to push their limts to keep up. This can be good if all goes well but it can be dangerous.
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[iCraig]

One the rideouts I have been on we have had 125's 2 stroke and 4 stroke.

The easiest thing is to paln a route, which every one sticks too and then arrange a stopping place like a pub or something, and let people catch up.

That way people are riding at their own speed and ability most of the time.

[bish777]

If for whatever reason, you must stick together, always have the slowest at the front. The rest behind must learn a bit of self control.

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[gavin]

show me a road with a good mix of 40mph-80mph corners and short straights and ill show you a 125 that will hassle you all the way!

not just mine, many 125's are a great laugh on twisties, people always underrate them, even on a track a well ridden 125 will hassle bigger bikes in the corners.

a couple of years ago i took a couple of bikes to a trackday, it was wet, so the big one stayed in the van and the 125 spent the whole day showing people up in the corners.....

[iCraig]

Its not just the lower displacement bikes that sometimes struggle to keep up.

I was on a 500cc bike last year on a rideout, and on the straight roads I totally failed to keep up I was a hell of a way behind for some of it.

But as soon as the twisties came I was infront, OK I was riding like a twat to keep infront but I had fun.

[Dom_]

Best thing is to plan a route and stop off say every 15 mins to let everyone catch up.

On a decent set of twisties a 2t 125 will have no problem keeping up, it's only on the 100mph+ corners that it will get dropped, and on the straights where all the "big boys" demonstrate their talent by opening the throttle.

[The Tot]

I feel a right arse going on a ride out with claud and ric on their 400s. So many times they could have got to Box hill in a much faster time than if they were babysitting a guy on the m25 only doing 65mph.

If i'm out with the herts lot, it's okay because it's not as if they're ragging it, and because the area's pretty familiar, it's not too difficult to meet up.

But riding to hastings with the other BCFers during Mayday was a NIGHTMARE. I bless Davo and R4nger who escorted me most of the way to hastings

Personally if i were to meet up with some 125 4t guys for a ride out, it would only be for a 30 mile ride if that. I'd be very reluctant to go ride out a serious distance with them purely because i've put so many people into riding at an agonisingly slow pace.

I was quite happy when Swaffs decided to still ride out with me on his 600 through the thames valley even though it was somewhat unnecessary in the rain!

125's are fun because they simply dont have the power to spit you off a bend if you're too giddy with the throttle, so the only time i manage to catch up with other people i'm riding with is either, when they're in the bends, trying to filter through traffic or have broken down
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[extreme3d]

[iCraig]

[Rookie]

Personally I wouldn't consider coming on a rideout until I have my 600 (which could also be a 400 or 500, anything bigger than a 125), and I wouldn't expect a 125 to come to it if the intention was to blast it down some straights. I would expect them to perhaps catch up with the group at a reststop.
The rest of the group shouldn't be held back because there's someone there on a small capacity bike, 125 rideouts aren't unheard of either.

[stinkwheel]

That's why I keep a variety of bikes. If someone wants to go on a rideout with me who is on a smaller bike, I take a smaller bike too. Easy.

As I have said, you don't land up that far behind anyway, a matter of some 20 minutes over 350 miles or so when I took my CB125TDC down to Wales with a bunch of mates on 650cc+ bikes.
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[KLR600]

I often go on rides with a Honda rebel 125 (4t) and honda SL125 (4t) and I'm on a (restricted) KLR600. The two 125's top out at 45mph but it's still a great laugh. If you get really bored you can allways just blast ahead a few corners at whatever speed and just wait at a suitable place on the side of the road for the others to catch up.


My regular riding buddies

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[iCraig]

They must be shit slow 125's to top out at 45mph!

My DNA125 does about 65mph!