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LUXY DJ
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: is car oil alright? Reply with quote

only a quickie

i need 2 fill up my bike with oil but iv heard its alright to use car oil

& m8s got casrtol gtx & im about to fill gsxr600 up but b4 i do is it ok to use this?
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also its in my manual saying SAE 10w-40 isrecommended & its also on the casrtol GTX bottle to so its ok (i assume) but is it good?
& whats the 10W-40 mean?
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO it's not alright - there's MOTORCYCLE oil and there's CAR oil for a reason ...
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm ok so why not? & whats best/decent oil TOO buy then?
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninja wrote:
NO it's not alright - there's MOTORCYCLE oil and there's CAR oil for a reason ...



Utter garbage Rolling Eyes



However, if you're just topping up the oil level it's best to use the same as what's already in there if you can find out.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh no! why cant everyone say if its fine or not Laughing 1st two replies are yes & no Rolling Eyes

well oil in there @ the moment is BLACK & bloke i know @ shop filled it up(as it was nearly empty) & once around the block & it was BLACK again already & since then has gone down quite abit aswell but i want to drain it out & fill up again & so on till its clearer/oil colour
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's Magnatec or anything similarly magnetic then it's NOT ok to put in your bike, it will cause the clutch to slip.

If not, then it should be ok.

10W40 refers to the viscosity (thickness) of the oil at cold, and at running temperature. in cold (I think) it's 10, when it's warm, it's 40.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah iv heard about that aswell & no it isnt magnatec its just STD castrol GTX

also i was told that fully syth makes the clutch slip aswell
so use semi(this was a bloke who's been setting up race bikes for 30+ years& reversed my gearing,etc)

but coming from 2-stroke to 4-stroke it was always fully syth in my 2t so is it not as such a big thing on a 4-stroke then?

cheers peeps so far Wink
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Suzukis suffer chronic clutch slip if run on fully synth, but are perfectly happy on semi synth. Mine runs on 'car' oil and has done for the last 45000 miles and is still on the original clutch plates.


Pop along to www.socweb.co.uk and ask - plenty of Gixxer 6 users there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a gsxr600 I'd use a semi synthetic bike oil.

You must learn to spell.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

well iv put that castrol gtx oil in & its so far ok

but what does everyone recommend/use like whats the best?
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant You just empty the lot and put the oil the maual says in it it would be much easier and keep ya mind at rest to
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

manual just says 10w-40 which is same on casrtol gtx car oil but its fine so far but ill drain it if anything feels/goes wrong

but so what can ppl recommend as a good gsxr600 oil? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain to me if/how the oil you put in affects the Fuel Injection?????
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

freestyler_onli wrote:
Can someone explain to me if/how the oil you put in affects the Fuel Injection?????


It doesn't really.

I have used car oil in bikes loads of times with no problems, including fully synthetic car oils. There are occasional brands that do cause problems (Magnetec seems regularly mentioned, few people seem to have had issues with Texaco oil as well), but 99% should be fine.

Bikes often have very basic oil requirements (eg, Triumph only specify 15W50 SH oil for the TT600).

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PostPosted: 13:36 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked because when i ran low on oil the 'FI' error message showed- meaning Fuel Injection..... Confused

Hmmm.

Maybe a dodgy wire.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

freestyler_onli wrote:
I asked because when i ran low on oil the 'FI' error message showed- meaning Fuel Injection..... Confused


Probably there is a feed to the ECU to turn the light on an get you to stop immediatly.

Oil too low will rapidly result in a wrecked engine.

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PostPosted: 14:38 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't it affect clutch slip on bikes like the R1? They add something to car oil IIRC.
Don't bike engines get much hotter too?
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 22 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

They add some stuff to some oils that can provoke clutch slip. 1200 Bandit has had car oil in it most of its life. GPZ500 gets it. FZR600 gets it.

Temp wise they are all about the same really.

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PostPosted: 19:15 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

actualy most modern car oils use friction reducers, which if you tried to run in a bike with a wet clutch( sits in engine oil) you would find it almost impossible to set off without bouncin it off the rev limiter
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Some do, so don't. Try it. You will probably find no problems with the clutch. I don't have a problem using BP semi synthetic or fully synthetic car oil. Only one that has slipped was the Bandit when the engine was tuned, but then that also slipped with brand new clutch plates and bike oil in it.

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PostPosted: 19:52 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would never run car oil in a motor cycle, only run what your owner manual says, or what your dealer suggets
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

luderacer wrote:
i would never run car oil in a motor cycle, only run what your owner manual says, or what your dealer suggets


Which would be (using the CBR600 manual I have here) SAE 10W40 , API rated SE, SF or SG. Pretty much the same for the Suzuki 1200 Bandit manual and for the ZZR600 manuals I have floating round. No mention of motorcycle specific oil. Only one that does is the Triumph TT600 manual.

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 26 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

luderacer wrote:
or what your dealer suggets.

Which would probably be whatever they're selling with the biggest profit margin Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 26 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time Iv even heard of it causing a problem. I could imagine something like magnatec causeing slipping clutches though. Just put any bog standard 10W40 in and itll be fine.
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PostPosted: 04:40 - 01 Nov 2005    Post subject: oil............. Reply with quote

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i hope this would help..... Rolling Eyes Thumbs Up
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