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PostPosted: 17:52 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: New renthal + Motrax parts = Carbon + 50bhp! Reply with quote

Okay so maybe not 50bhp Laughing

I got totally sick and tired of my RS having crappy knackered bar ends and soft worn out squidgy grips, so I went to Hein Gericke and got some new Renthal grips, and some Motrax (anodised) CARBON FIBRE bar ends!!!! Laughing

I decided to plump for hard compound grips, as I've been put right off soft compound ones. I also ended up going for gold anodized bar ends, complete with REAL CARBON FIBRE inserts Smile Laughing.

The grips were a bit (or a lot) of a bugger to get on, but once they were on they were fine Smile.
Same goes for the bar ends, and now I'm left with a bike that looks a lot better.

I took the bike for a run round the local area after fitting them, and the difference in feel is definitley noticable. Now I can feel every bump on the road through the grips - they're only a small thing but they've changed how the bike feels Smile.

All in all, not bad for £23 and 15 minutes work Smile .

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PostPosted: 17:54 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't like it Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the renthal 'soft' compound grips. I know exactly what you went through with the fitment, the right one is a real pain to get on!
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks alot better than the orig ones Wink
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Re: New renthal + Motrax parts = Carbon + 50bhp! Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
complete with REAL CARBON FIBRE inserts Smile Laughing.


how does carbon fibre "inserts" work? Carbon Fibre is a good material becuase it has a high Youngs modulus (stress/strain), this basically means that it light and doesn bend. not sure why you would need either of these properties in barend (maybe a weight saving but so small not point)

what inserts of it then?

EDIT: saw what carbon fibre inserts are now! still dont agree with idea though!

Not having a good just a bit pointless really! at least the grips sound nice and glad you made it look better Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Re: New renthal + Motrax parts = Carbon + 50bhp! Reply with quote

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Not having a good just a bit pointless really! at least the grips sound nice and glad you made it look better Thumbs Up


The whole purpose of the carbon fibre in this case is cosmetic, it's there for the "bling factor". Bar ends don't do much apart from stop your grips sliding off, and making the bars look a bit better.
Well now they stop the grips sliding off, and make the bars look a LOT better.
I'm not really bothered about the higher power to weight ratio now i've saved about 15 grams from the original bar grips, I just like them because they look sparkly Smile
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the purpose of bar ends are to absorb some of the buzzy vibes, byt introducing more inertia to mass required to be moved by the vibrations. by using lighter bar ends, you're removing this added inertia and you might find the bars more buzzy/vibey.

Also, it mght be real carbon fibre, but it's still only carbon fibres which have been moulded using (probably) a polyester resin, and is just the same as glassfibre, except it's black.

Proper carbon fibre has been pressure treated, with special resins, in an autoclave to make it superlight and super strong.

90% of the Carbon goodies you see are pure cosmetic.

sorry Smile

it looks nice, but they serve no purpose, and in my opinion, are inferior to an OE part Very Happy

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PostPosted: 18:09 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bothered Razz .
They look sparkly, and the bars don't buzz Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
the purpose of bar ends are to absorb some of the buzzy vibes, byt introducing more inertia to mass required to be moved by the vibrations. by using lighter bar ends, you're removing this added inertia and you might find the bars more buzzy/vibey.


Not forgetting the fact that large, OE barends can reduce the damage done to a bike if it falls over, if not stop any damamge at all! (sv and er5 were both dropped) Thumbs Up We dinky ones will help no end in denting your tank against the ground. Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Re: New renthal + Motrax parts = Carbon + 50bhp! Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:

Well now they stop the grips sliding off, and make the bars look a LOT better.

Or worse, as we can see here Razz.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the Renthals, don't like the bar ends - fake carbon and coloured anodising Sick
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your gonna feel more vibrations with them grips ive been told.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grip's a grip IMO, be it Renthal OE or martian it's stilla grip and I doubt I'd notice the difference on somone elses bike, but if you like 'em....well it's your money I 'spose Laughing


The bar ends on the other hand are inexcusable, sorry m8 but I think they look cheap and tacky Sick
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those bar ends are horrendous.

I think you would of been better off investing in some T-Cut and sorting out that tank! Razz
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
Those bar ends are horrendous.

I think you would of been better off investing in some T-Cut and sorting out that tank! Razz


Agreed! Laughing

Also, just how rusty is that bolt above the tank! Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you lubed the grips before trying to get them on?

I remember once seeing a guy in a workshop using two screwdrivers to desperately roll and prise a grip off.

I prised the grip up a bit, squirted in a good deal of WD40, and the grip slipped off like a used condom; It literally fell off under its own weight.

Went back on just as easy. WD40 - Id marry it if I could.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
Went back on just as easy. WD40 - Id marry it if I could.


Don't use it to put grips back on as they are likely to just not stay in place.

Been told that hair spray is good stuff to use to help new grips slide on.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:40 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Been told that hair spray is good stuff to use to help new grips slide on.


I have tried that without much success. It's possible the grips were a little large before I started, but they just slid about more enthusiastically after the hairspray had been and gone (maybe the hairspray never dried?).

Electrical tape wrapped around the bar to widen them a little worked a treat, though my local mechanic said it isn't such a clever idea in the summer if the glue goes runny and your grip goes sliding off the end of the bar half-way around a corner.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

That is the normal problem with using WD40. Idea of hair spray is that it will allow the grip to slide on easily but then dry. If they are sliding on easily enough then you do not need it, just glue them on.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:05 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way to do grips is with soapy water. Fitting grips is a 2 minute job. Bought some Renthal grip glue with my last pair of grips and it was rubish, made the job ten times harder! Ended up chucking the stuff in the bin and using soapy water!

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PostPosted: 22:10 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

put the grips in realy hot water, then slip them on, when they cool they shrink to the bar. simple.

done it many a time.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furniture Polish is another good one.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just used fairy liquid to slide 'em on Smile .

G they do not look bad at all, they will look even better with my carbon fibre subframe covers, jl exhaust system, billet brake reservoir lid, carbon yoke protector, (new) yoke bolt thingie, and other random sparkly bits Smile.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:

G they do not look bad at all

C'mon.
Carbon fibre effect stuck on to anodised gold bar ends.

That shouts out to a lot of people 'I think I'm rossi, but really have no clue'.

I think the rest would confirm it with little doubt.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon fibre effect?! Laughing

I was under the impression that they were actually fabricated from carbon fibre. They look gash. If you had to have a design on gold/ yellow, I'd go for a black & white chequered effect.
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