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kawakid
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Do you filter? Reply with quote

Just a thought, I was sat in my car the other day, and to the right of me was a biker, about 10 or 15 cars behind the lights.

Now the road is very very wide and easy to filter, this biker queued, the lights turned red and he queued again.

I was shocked, why would a biker do this? Or am I missing something.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve seen some that choose to do this. I just think, “I guess it’s safer”
And it is, the high way code doesn’t say, do it, they just know you can, always be on you guard.
I am too impatient.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I que every now and then. Usually when I am knackered and I am not 100% sure that I can manage the bike through the cars without taking a wing mirror off.

Or when I think its not totally safe. Got this junction near me where cars alway suddenly pulling into other lanes. I just sit in the que not to risk it.

Better to be safe than sorry me thinks.

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PostPosted: 10:51 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only ever filter past if theres more than 3 cars in front of me at a junction, when i am filtering past, i always have my main beam headlight on so that they can always see me coming, but thats me, my mates on their twist n' go peds never filter until they see that im doing it, there quite happy sitting there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'll que sometimes. Filtering is probably the 2nd most dangerous thing you can do on a bike, so if I'm not feeling 100% I won't do it.

Sometimes I'll que for a bit to watch the sequencing on the lights, figure out where the traffic will be going and where it is most likely someone will try and change lane.

If you wanted to turn right shortly after the lights, I wouldn't filter cos you can end up stuck in between two lanes, and I don't trust car drivers to let me through.

Plenty of reasons not to.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

FreshAL wrote:
Filtering is probably the 2nd most dangerous thing you can do on a bike
- What's the first??? getting on?

I filter past anything that is stationary, and probably anything that is going slower then the speed limit.

I am ridiculesly(sp?) impatient and can't be bothered to wait around
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buddy of mine goes to the front at lights no matter how many cars are there. It's just automatic for him.
I never filter through for less than 5 or so cars unless the driver infront has been holding everyone up, well under the speed limit. Infact there are a number of variables which may or may not lead me to filter. I don't do it automatically.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I filter if i feel it is safe to do so.

A friend of mine was filtering and a car pulled out on him. Luckily he smashed the car up which had to wait a few hours for recovery, while after exchanging details he rode off.

Its a personal preference at the end of the day
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time, unless i was on the wrong side of the road to turn off at the end. (if you know what i mean)

When i went out for a test ride on the ZXR got to the top of my road, and it was at a standstill going the way i wanted to go, so i nipped down the middle, first time filtering, first time on the bike, and it felt great! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drummer wrote:
FreshAL wrote:
Filtering is probably the 2nd most dangerous thing you can do on a bike
- What's the first??? getting on?


Overtaking, apparently. Or so somebody on the internet told me anyway Wink
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was filtering past slow moving traffic and one car let out another ... and i went straight itno it at 30MPH.

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i would say filtering is the worst, unless it's fast overtaking
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheres stunting then? Rolling Eyes
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Kram
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wheres stunting then?


You do that at your own personal risk. i don't stunt so therefore it's not a risk for me Confused
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 2 years of biking, I bought a car. I was out one day with Dam_buster and I went to filter. Embarassed

Dam_buster shit himself. I was confused. Then I realised I was in a car! Laughing

Used to filter all the time on the bikes though. Kept to a reasonable speed (10 - 15mph max)
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admit I filer stupidly. And way too fast. Ask Klause what its like trying to keep up down the A3 on the way home!! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you stand legally on filtering?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a newbie on 2 wheels I am a little "worried" about filtering at the moment. Shocked Hope this will change in time.

Having said that I did filter past a load of cars waiting at a level crossing the other day - no traffic coming the other way though. Very Happy Embarassed

I am quite happy to sit in a Q though. Years of training driving cages. Cool Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always filter, if there's room of course. See a lot of people sit in queue's on there bikes and I just cant understand why.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam_buster shit himself. I was confused. Then I realised I was in a car!

hahahaha lmao


I always filter to the front of the ques i prefer to have nobody in front of me so if i ever get rear ended by some cunt who forgets there car is in gear and drops the clutch ive got a space to fall into and not get squished against the car in front Razz
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumphammer wrote:

I am quite happy to sit in a Q though. Years of training driving cages. Cool Very Happy


Yeah, sometimes it's easy to forget you're on a bike and habit takes over. Laughing

Sometimes I'll wait cos I can see another bike coming up and want to let them get through first. Not being the fastest filterer on earth, I don't want to hold them up.

Sometimes I'll wait cos I want a little break. Scratch my nose, uncramp my hand, fiddle with my mirror, whatever.

Sometimes I'll wait cos I'm going to be horribly early for wherever I'm going and I'd rather not be.

Sometimes I'll wait cos the traffic's got too tight for my liking and I'm just going to stay in place til it opens up again rather than get myself wedged. Not everyone's sense of spacial is the same.

There's plenty of reasons for sitting in a queue, don't see the harm in it myself.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes will the traffic lights to turn red so that I can stop for a break, adjust mirrors, stretch arms etc. Not that it ever works, so when a queue presents itself I take the opportunity. I am impatient though, and 90% of the time I filter to the front.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, depending on how late I am and how tired I am. At 6 o'clock in the middle of winter coming back from work I just cannae be arsed a lot of the time. If I'm really late and the traffic is stationary, I'll be going round the left and right and crossing lanes to make progress if I have to. Confused I never filter along the line past anything with a space in the lane next to it, I take the space in the next lane. At least then I have some leeway when they decide they want to switch lanes.

You have to have a certain level of confidence in your ability to think about filtering in the first place. If you've not been riding very long anyway, you're probably thinking more about not making any stupid mistakes. It's mostly learners (yes that can include people who have passed their test) or people not in a hurry who don't filter. I have tended to get into the habit of filtering whether I need to or not, because sitting still in traffic can get really very frustrating. I don't think driving a car would make me the least stressed out person on the road. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only started to filter recently, just never had the balls to do it. I don't live in a city so there's not really a big need to do it.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it does depend on your mood, where you're going, how late/early you are, or even weather. My commute in the morning is all traffic jams & filtering into the city centre...and I've grown to really enjoy it. To make the same journey by car would take 30+ minutes but on the bike it's more like 10.

Sometimes you look at a gap and think "Why the hell am I not through there and away?" Other times you think it's not worth the risk and just queue until a more comfortable gap comes along.


The most scary thing I've found filtering is when you're about 2-3 cars from the front of the queue and the lights change to green. I've formed a terrible habit of pinning the throttle and shooting out between the two cars at the front. In retrospect it's quite a dangerous thing to do...but good fun at the same time.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

99 % i'll filter and i actually quite enjoy it!

i focus my attention on the cars much more as to not be caught out and make myself get noticed as much as poss.

if other bikers want to queue then thats cool but i like the fact that on a bike you don't have to sit in traffic and i make the most of it.

i have a couple of mates who aren't confident in filtering but are happy to follow my lead and i take it easy, thats how i learned Thumbs Up
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