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numark1
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: DIY Servicing Reply with quote

Taking my dads bike down to the garage tomorrow to get the tyres changed and want to do some servicing on it myself as i haven't taken a bike apart in a while.

So far i have thought of:

Arrow Spark Plugs

Arrow Oil Change

Arrow Coolant Change

Arrow A Clean (if i feel up to it)

can't think of anything else. It's due a service and i want to do as much as i can so i can be my dads favourite just before christmas. Mr. Green

Any other sugguestions? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air filters easy too.

Why not clean the chain? (Get a bit of paraffin in a little tin, buy a cheap electric toothbrush from your nearest pound store, mine came up a treat).

Don't forget to lube afterwards.

Also why not lube all brake, clutch, throttle cables etc.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

break pads, break fluid,
pretty much everything you dotn need a macine for, (tyres)
you can do forks, fork seals really,, honestly and aslong as you have the confidence and common sence to buy a decent munual, either workshop, clymer or hains (at a push) you cant really go wrong,

must buy tools would be carb ballencing kits, if you have carbs
torque set
small shitty welding kit (just in case you have to make some odd tools, like i had to weld a bolt to a long piece of steel to take my forks appart)

faith in what you can do and a mate to phone up for advice (or bcf forums) is a must aswell
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably no need to touch the coolant,
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

want to do mine too Wink Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don,t touch the Spark Plugs on a four-stroke bike like a ZZR600 unless they really need changing (causing troble) snapping the small spark plugs and ripping the thread out is very easyly done and a pain in the arse to sort out on a four-stroke.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took one out and its all rusted. Confused

I was going to get him some of those iridium ones.

Brake pads have been done recently also the disks because my dad wore down to the metal and screwed the disks up. Laughing

He said it doesnt seem to ride properly any more. Done 50,000 miles since new in 5 years. Laughing

Any excuse to buy a new bike/car instead of sleep loads on one weekend. Confused
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adjsuting & Lubing throttle cable can make the bike feel a lot more responsive. If one of the spark plug ends is actually rusted, then I'd change them but would take a detailed look at them against a spark plug chart to see how the engine is running.

Then jsut do what you're planning, making sure you have the f*cking tools!!! (Things get ugly with me when I buy something and realise I need a seperate tool to use it Evil or Very Mad Laughing )
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
Don,t touch the Spark Plugs on a four-stroke bike like a ZZR600 unless they really need changing (causing troble) snapping the small spark plugs and ripping the thread out is very easyly done and a pain in the arse to sort out on a four-stroke.


Surely checking the spark plugs before they start to give you trouble is a better practice?

If you're careful with them, you should be able to check them whenever you want without causing more problems. Hand tighten them, then a 1/8 turn with a spanner/wrench to seat it tight. If they're brand new plugs, give 1/4-1/2 turn.

Checking the plugs gives you a good indication of how the engine is running - too rich/lean, too hot/cold and hopefully you can rectify this before any problems occur.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's running a bit rich due to the harpoon exhausts. It sounds pretty fucked now though. I think its near the end of it's life. Laughing

50,000 miles is loads for a bike.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

T44TE M wrote:

50,000 miles is loads for a bike.



Errrrrr, no Thumbs Down

what is it?
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Re: DIY Servicing Reply with quote

T44TE M wrote:


Arrow Spark Plugs

Arrow Oil Change



As others have said I wouldn't worry about the plugs until you start having problems with them, and if you do make sure that you clean the area around the top so you don't drop crap down the barrels when you remove them.

Also I take it when you say oil change you mean replace the oil filter also. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a ZZR600.

Got some castrol oil, the best i could find at £35 for 4 litres. New spark plugs, oil filter and redex carb cleaner.

The plugs i took out were pretty fouled up and had rust on them Confused

Probably not gonna do the oil filter because it looks like too much hard work and all of the kawasaki screws are rounding as soon as i look at them. Laughing

Also pulled a muscle in my back whilst doing it. Luckly i have 2 weeks off work for christmas now though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I agree with Fuzz. Checking the spark plugs are usually the first thing I do whenever I take ownership of a new bike, whenever something with the engine has changed, something doesn't feel right or for regular maintenance. You can tell quite a bit from the condition of a set of spark plugs.

Have you got a Haynes - most of them give a good indication of some of the things that need checking at different intervals - might be useful.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a haynes. Just want to do the basic stuff. It will be getting serviced at a garage soon just want to do some of it myself becuase its fun taking bikes apart. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's how I started - doing it as a hobby with some supervision by Dad - I do most of the work on my bikes now Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also its good to know that the job you are doing is being done properly rather than what the mechanic is doing. My friend found a screwdrive in the side of his zxr400 when he got it serviced. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also that the job(s) that needs doing are being done and nothing else that you could be charged for!
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

T44TE M wrote:


Got some castrol oil, the best i could find at £35 for 4 litres.

Probably not gonna do the oil filter because it looks like too much hard work




Can you explain the logic here? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's getting serviced in Janurary so i will let them take all the manifold and stuff off to get and it and change it. I doubt it will make that much of a difference leaving it for a few weeks.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its only four bolts to take the belly pan off and then the oil filter is right in front of you. piss easy to get the oil filter off by hammering a screw driver through it, and do the new one up as tight as possable by hand.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need any help you know where I am. Please don't say the brake seals need doing Razz
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im trying to get the airbox on now and its fucking pissing me off. Its much harder than last time and the carbs keep coming off even though i tighten them. Confused
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR600 airbox I found to be quite easy to put back on compared to most. Sure you got the carbs on properly as they should be hard to move once on.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 19 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some washing up liqued around the rubber carb connectors on the air box, then they will slip on with ease.
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