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PostPosted: 14:33 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: BT 020 !? Reply with quote

My bike is getting serviced today, and since the tyres were very bad he said that he has a set of 020's and did i want them i said yes as the tyres were very bad, does anyone have them? what are they like ?

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PostPosted: 15:22 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:24 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad has them on his zzr600. They are sports touring. Quite good in dry as well as wet and last a long time. I would be happy with them. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have them on the Bandit. Seem to be fine for my style of riding. Others would recommend somehting a bit softer if you're going to thrash it round the place. I wouldn't know about that kind of thing, i'm a sedate rider. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: BT 020 !? Reply with quote

Be aware that there are two types of BT020. The F and U grade.

The U has a much deeper tread and was the tyre choice for Pan European riders. Compound is the same.

F has the same tread pattern but less tread depth.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one on the rear. I thought they where more sport than touring, but still pretty good life. There an all rounder sort of tyre. I rate them Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least it'll go around corners as the old ones were very square Laughing will keep them till the good weather comes back and then get something a little softer

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PostPosted: 16:16 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.


Thinking I could barely spin up my tyres that were down to the carcass on my gsxr and that was restricted for a bit.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.


Well I have them on in summer and I thrash the hell out of my bike. Scrape the pegs at high speeds on some of the twistiest roads North Yorkshire has to offer. Get sports tyres like the 014's if you are 40, have a race can and like mini indicators. Otherwise get a decent ROAD tyre like the 020's that are designed to cope with grease, diesel, small stones and water etc that are present on the roads.

And as to the comments about them being favoured by pan riders????? WTF no pan rider would want a 020.. Sports Touring is a vague term to use as it covers from 90% touring/10% sports to 10% Touring/90% Sports. 020's are in the later and wouldn't last very long with a big heavy bike going upright most of the time.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The#Doctor# wrote:
Well at least it'll go around corners as the old ones were very square Laughing will keep them till the good weather comes back and then get something a little softer

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You can push them pretty well. My dad rinsed me through tweseldown bends once on his. I was on a full power zx6r with metzler rennsports and he wasnt in sight from the start. Laughing

Not that im a crap rider Shifty just he has been riding since he was 10 done loads of track days and always had bikes. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks extreme3d sounds like you like them then, i'll be gettin the bike back soon so will try them out for myself but seems that your pretty confident with them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.


I suggest you get that tyre looked at then because I've had 020's fitted to my unrestricted Fazer 600 from new and I've not yet been able to get the rear to spin up.

Either your tyre's fucked, or it's not an 020, or you're talking shit! Wink (That or your restricted bike isn't that restricted... Confused )
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam_P wrote:
jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.


I suggest you get that tyre looked at then because I've had 020's fitted to my unrestricted Fazer 600 from new and I've not yet been able to get the rear to spin up.

Either your tyre's fucked, or it's not an 020, or you're talking shit! Wink (That or your restricted bike isn't that restricted... Confused )


Even if it wasn't 'that restricted', a zxr400 still wouldn't have the power in the dry to spin up an 020 just like that. In the wet yes, but ANY tyre will slip in the wet if you give it a hand full. Any chance Jamie that you just don't have enough experience yet to know what is normal across all tyres? Wink
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie192 wrote:
i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.

So they are slippery when hot & sticky when cold???????? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodsi also thinks they are the best thing since sliced bread, like extreme3d.

Personally, I've yet to come across a crap tyre. Laughing The Avon sportsmax(?) on the ninja is the only tyre that has lost a bit of traction in my riding experience.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam_P wrote:
jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.


I suggest you get that tyre looked at then because I've had 020's fitted to my unrestricted Fazer 600 from new and I've not yet been able to get the rear to spin up.

Either your tyre's fucked, or it's not an 020, or you're talking shit! Wink (That or your restricted bike isn't that restricted... Confused )


I was gonna say must be some zxr, even pushing the zzr on a dry road with cold tyres will still take quite alot before it spins. The front will lift before that happens. Really soft tyres is understandable or raining.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, got pirelli somethings on my ZX6R at the moment, seem good tyres, But when I change them I will go back to 020's

I tried an 014 and ripped it off in about 1000 miles on a bandit 600.

The 020 will get 6K easy with the same sort of abuse.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is keep an eye on the front tire, in my experience i had them on my cb750, they last forever but the front seems to suffer from uneven tire wear, maybe it was just my bike on the way i rode.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

beast rider wrote:
My advice is keep an eye on the front tire, in my experience i had them on my cb750, they last forever but the front seems to suffer from uneven tire wear, maybe it was just my bike on the way i rode.


My front tyre had hardly any wear when i sold it. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

got one on the back of my cbr400, i dont think it has worn down since i got the bike lol, not a bad tyre no real problems with it at all can get the bike pritty far over before it starts to twich
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 17 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie192 wrote:
I have a bt 020 on the back of my zxr, what can i say my restricted zxr will wheel spin them when i nail the throttle. i wouldnt advise them for thrashing around on in the summer, you would want something a little softer that gets hotter and more sticky. Not bad for winter though hasnt slipped on cornering.

My bike has probably double the torque of yours and double the power yet i've never had the tyre spinning up. as it's been said the front will lift first (unless you're on a moanhole cover in the rain or something) I do trackdays on 020's and the only time i've had a slip was trying to get my knee down at the hairpin at cadwell on cold tyres on a wet day. the front slipped about an inch just to let me know. i just laugh at all the gear no idea types who insist on having the lastest super soft sticky tyres as a fashion statement. i do my fair bit of hooning with the best of them and i'm the only 1 who can get to italy and back on the same tyres and still finish them off on the track.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 17 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're a nice compromise, they're ok to commute on, but will still do a trackday with no problems.

Got them on the bandit.

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PostPosted: 20:41 - 17 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I wouldn't want on the front wheel.

No, I'm not 40, though I don't tend to totally thrash bikes on the road. I do know how to ride.
I just prefer to have a bit more safety margin on the front for a road tyre. Seem to remember also they don't warm up very quickly. Generally wouldn't like to push the front too much with them.

Saying that, I have got a Supercorsa front and 010 rear for my 250 mile a week winter commuting bike Smile - I prefer to have the maximum grip possible. Definitely in damp and worse conditions the 020 doesn't seem nearly as good as the 010 or stickier tyres I prefer.


I've seen quite a few pan-euros with them on.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 17 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey extreme3d i've got 014's on my bike and yes i'm over 40, but i don't have mini indicators on my 04 mille. i had an sv650s before i got the mille and i found the best combo for that bike was 010 front 020 rear, the 010's don't last very long on the rear of the sv.
as for scraping the pegs what bollocks
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