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mchaggis
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 22 Jan 2006    Post subject: So then, you snap your sump plug.. Reply with quote

Or rather, in this case, the oil filler cap for the final drive oil. Doh! I overtightened and snapped it without even putting much effort into it. It looks pretty much the same as a normal sump plug (wide flanged bolt with a rubber O-ring).

The plug is all out of the thread and the thread for the hole is undamaged. I shall probably go out and find a replacement plug (they appear to be pretty common things?), but while we're at it, what is suitable for a bodge repair? Some sort of chemical metal, Araldite, ...?

Another thing, I haven't really run it for long enough to get really hot, but the plug gaps have closed right up. What actually causes that? Confused Is it because the tips have got hotter than the rest of the plug, warping it downwards? Thinking
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 22 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: So then, you snap your sump plug.. Reply with quote

Confused me there - if the broken plug is out and you're getting a new one, and the thread in the hole is ok, what needs repairing?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 22 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: So then, you snap your sump plug.. Reply with quote

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Confused me there - if the broken plug is out and you're getting a new one, and the thread in the hole is ok, what needs repairing?


If I were to bodge repair the old plug, what would be best to use? I know I'd just be best to get off to the breakers for a new one anyway, but it'd be handy to know what is the best way with an old one.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 22 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This for a shaft drive? The filler cap?

Stick anything you like in there, it shouldn't be under pressure, just to stop oil spashing out/muck getting in. If it were me I'd just use a normal bolt with a cardboard gasket underneath to seal it, or an o-ring if you have one.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 22 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: So then, you snap your sump plug.. Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:

Another thing, I haven't really run it for long enough to get really hot, but the plug gaps have closed right up. What actually causes that? Confused Is it because the tips have got hotter than the rest of the plug, warping it downwards? Thinking


Piston-plug-interface.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 23 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might find an old spark plug will screw into the drain plug hole, have heard of this being done before.

Got to echo sickpup on the plugs. Sure they are the right plugs, not longer ones? Alternatively I suppose if there was a really thick layer of carbon on the piston crown that might tap them, but I'd expect it to leave a layer of carbon on the tips.
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mchaggis
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 23 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They weren't the right plugs. There are four plugs in two cylinders and only two did it. Confused The ones which were in were DR8ES-L rather than DPR8EA-9, which are hotter. I'll see if these do it.

I've got a replacement drain cap on order.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 23 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
They weren't the right plugs. There are four plugs in two cylinders and only two did it.


Plugs will be at slightly different heights. Normally one is offset.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 23 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided (after nearly a year) to change my final drive oil too, honda dont have a specified torque seting for it? weird..
Anyways, set it to 7lbft and did it up (spection port and the oil plug) same as it was before and it stayed on a year..

Agree with stinkwheel, get a normal bolt, cut it to the same length as the original and steal the old rubber o-ring or get out the ol' cornflakes packet Wink if your really paranoid you could use some locktite thredloc, really great stuff Thumbs Up (if a bit blimin expensive)
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 24 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided it would be easier to get a new one rather than find something like an M22 bolt and cut it short. I don't have any dies to tidy up a thread that big. Laughing
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