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lee125
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: strange thing happening to my gearbox oil? Reply with quote

i have a dtr 125 and i have just got a new water seal because last week loads water was getting into the oil and it was constantly white.and i have just fitted it and when i put the oil it it looks normal but when i start it after a couple of mins it turns a creamy colour then i knock the engine off and leave it for an hour or so and then look at the oil and it is back to the normal colour does anyone know what this could be and will it make the oil not lubricate as well as it should please help me.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: strange thing happening to my gearbox oil? Reply with quote

lee125 wrote:
i have just got a new water seal


There are many water seals. What have you replced?

It sounds like you have water getting in from the cooling system. Possibly head gasket, possibly water pump. There are plenty of people here who will know specific advice for your bike. Do you need to top up the coolant often?

The main thing for the moment is that you risk damaging the engine as water is not good in the oil and your engine will not receive the lubrication it should have.

You can't see it when it's cold because oil and water do not mix and oil floats on top of water. But, it turns white because the oil and water become an emulsion as the moving parts of the engine act like a whisk. The whiter it is the greater the risk.

Personally I would avoid riding it until it was sorted. What other symptoms are there?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is the water pump seal that i have got recently and last week i bought a head gasket but the water hasnt gone down after running for about half an hour do you think it could be some of the water still in the engine from when the water seal went.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where would it go? Smile

It will still be there. You need to change the oil + filter.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

which filter as it is a 2 stroke and only has an air filter
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will definitely have an oil filter. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

where abouts could it be
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be in the workshop manual.

Please tell me you have a workshop manual and were following it when you took the water pump off. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i have the workshop manual and followed it when fitting but i have just been looking to see if it says anything about the oil filter in the manual and i cant find anything?
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't an engine on the planet that doesn't have an oil filter. I don't know where yours is I'm afraid. But it has one.

Look under routine maintenance, oil change. Most likely it will be either a screw-on car type, or a paper cartridge type which goes behind an engine side-casing.

Follow the instructions carefully. A common mistake is to overfill with fresh oil, which can cause damage.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

BFG wrote:
There isn't an engine on the planet that doesn't have an oil filter. I don't know where yours is I'm afraid. But it has one.


Wrong.

I have yet to see a 2 stroke with an oil filter. No doubt there is one but I haven't seen it.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 30 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 storkes rarely have oil filters as such, normally a peice fo gauze to trap dirt, same as small 4 strokes some only have a small peice of gauze......cbr125, aerox 100, aerox 50 etc etc
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 30 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made a cock-up here then. On my bold comment above I took off the "if only a gauze on the pickup" that I originally posted as I thought it might be confusing.

But there's no escaping the result - which was suggesting looking for paper type, which is wrong. Sickpup is quite right.

Hopefully I can redeem this with my "Follow the manual" suggestion. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 30 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah but a lot of 2 strokes don't have a gauze filter on the pickup as they don't even have a pickup. A lot of 2 strokes don't even have an engine oil pump but rely on splash.
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