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True Blue
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Motrax indicator prob Reply with quote

I just put on some front Motrax inicators on my NSR yesterday(Lookin good Cool ).

I gave them a quick test and they were fine. On way to work this morning though the bike wouldn't indicate left. I can hear the relay/flasher unit switching frantically, which I'm sure ain't good.

The right indicator seems to be working ok albeit a bit fast, I think thats normal though. Even when indicating right I can hear the relay/flasher unit switching really fast for a second then returning to normal.

Any ideas? Confused

Much appreciated.

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kev
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

maby a bulb has blown
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulb blown.

wiring wrong

did it work when you first wired it all up etc?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulb okay. And I checked the polarity of the connection which was fine. Though the polarity shouldn't asctually matter for a bulb.

Yeah it worked when i wired it up.

I cant understand it.

Confused Confused Confused
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tryed a differnt bulb in it or actually tested the bulb
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bulbs? The flasher unit may not be able to handle 23-25w bulbs very well
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

bahh simple folk lol

when you fitted your motrax indicators you probably noticed the wires were the same colour.....thats cos they cant be wired wrong..its not possible the wires can go either way Wink

as for the bulb going...very unlikely, normally what happens when a bulb goes is the remaining bulb simply stops flashing.

i would think you may have a phuked relay, very unlikely its the bulbs.

unless

the motrax indicators i had needed to be clamed to the bike wires, if youve done the same theres a chyance you may have shorted it by not making the wiring neat and tidy....the above happened on my first attempt Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:55 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a voltage across the bulb to test it.

I'm just assuming that its 23W cause it didn't actually say on the pakaging or the indicator itself. Well I wasn't sure if the flasher unit would handle it myself, but by all accounts it should. Strange how the right hand side works though.

Where would I get a 10W bulb for it? It'll need to be an orange one.

Cheers
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not seem to do any harm getting the wiring wrong way round when installing indicators on the NSR. I just randomly tried the wiring till it worked Laughing But i had to fiddle about with different what bulbs @ the front and back. I'm running 23w @ the front and 4w @ the rear Confused to get maximum brightness, but it's still kinda shit. Confused
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear what your saying there craig. The wires could go anyway round, yeah. But to make it pukka I connected It + to + and - to -. On the NSR the wires are different colours. Green is - and orange and white (or something) is +.

I definately didn't short it. I'm careful like that cause i'm an electrician.

I just thought someone might have came across this before but i'll look at it again tommorrow, seeing as i've got the day off work.. Cool
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

4w at the rear Danny? Is that bright enough? What indicators have you got, is it the clear ones?

And where do you get bulbs to suit it?
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 14 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4w at the rear Danny? Is that bright enough?
NO Laughing But when i had 23w all over it was worse for sum reason Confused
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What indicators have you got, is it the clear ones?
nope yellow ones. But i have ultra cheap ones, for £5 a pair Shocked Surprised
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And where do you get bulbs to suit it?
local car spares shop, 30p each i think Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine might be brighter cause they are clear. I'll look in to it tomorrow and let yo know how i get on.

Danny wrote:
NO Laughing But when i had 23w all over it was worse for sum reason Confused

In theory with 23W all round they would be about almost 2 and a half times less bright cause its only designed for 40W output tops
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In theory with 23W all round they would be about almost 2 and a half times less bright cause its only designed for 40W output tops
really, must get me some 10w blubs then
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah mate, putting more powerful bulbs in will only make them brighter if the unit can handle it. You could put 300W bulbs in but the unit would still only pump out 40W or whatever
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I went out this morning and tried my indicators. Much to my disbelief, they worked Shocked

Only for about 2 seconds though, then kapoot.

WTF

So anyway, I whipped out the cables from the motrax indicator and put them across a standard bulb. The indicators worked fine. Nothing wrong with the flasher unit then. Confused

Once the Motrax one was connected back up it doesn't work again.(Still don't understand why the other side works though Question )

I tried everywhere to get a 10 Watt bulb that size, and no joy. Where the hell are you guys getting them from? Can I get them off the net?

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True Blue
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 2 flasher units and £14 later, the fucking things still don't work Evil or Very Mad

I tried a unit from Halfords, didn't work. I got one from Kawasaki dealer, same make but 2 x 23W rating. This one blue the fuse ( I think I managed to throw this one over 100 feet, which was impressive).

Lesson learned - Don't fuck about with your bike it'll beat you. Sad
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

tkae it to the shop you got them from.

and my indicators just plugged straight in Confused
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lesson learned - Don't fuck about with your bike it'll beat you.
This is coming from an electrician no less Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Danny"]
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This is coming from an electrician no less Laughing Laughing Laughing


Your'e telling me. Confused Unfortunately electronics arn't my game.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 15 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen wrote:
tkae it to the shop you got them from.


Don't think he would take them back as there is nothing actually wrong with the indicators themself. Plus I have no receipt or packaging, which I'm sure aint a good thing Rolling Eyes

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and my indicators just plugged straight in Confused


Yeah but everything I touch turns to shit Sad

I think I'll just replace them with some 10W ones. I found a website with some cheap ones here... https://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/mcycle-1/mcycle-1.html
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 16 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your'e telling me. Unfortunately electronics arn't my game.
my bad Rolling Eyes There was someone else who said he was an electrician Confused who had an NSR
Try this:
https://www.hondapart.co.uk/products.htm
Mini indicators pair - £4.99
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PostPosted: 06:33 - 16 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen Mini Indicators as a worth while 'mod' but if you have massive massive bulky ones to start off with then why not change them Smile
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 16 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not throwing anymore money at this prob. I've just ordered 10W indicators Confused
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 16 Apr 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that problem just change the relay, goto halfords £5 problem sorted!
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