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Marcg868
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: The moon! Reply with quote

Do any of you reckon they actually went to the moon, or reckon its a load of bollocks?

I mean 30/40 years on we havent been back, why not???
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to go back, cost to much to go back and they have found out all they need to know about the moon.

Twelve American astronauts walked on the Moon between 1969-1972. No human being has been there since, so why go back now? The renewed American interest in the Moon and Mars may have been stimulated by the highly visible, decidedly successful, first manned spaceflight by China on October 15, 2003. China said it plans to send an unmanned probe to orbit the Moon in 2005, unmanned landers returning soil and rocks from the Moon a few years later, and astronauts to land on the Moon in the not too distant future.

NASA has created an Office of Exploration Systems to oversee creation of new rockets and transport ships to fly people to the International Space Station, the Moon and Mars.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technology is so much more advanced now, than in the 70's. If could land on the moon 30 years ago, why have'nt we been back?

Cods wallop did they land on the moon Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what i think! i believe the would have orbited the moon, but actually landing on the lump of rock is a big no no. I dont think we'll ever have the Technology to go beyond out own Galaxy, allthoug i do believe there is other planets supporting life out there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny enough the american government recently announced they will be returning and setting up a small colony winthin the next 10years (i think it was 10, maybe less..)

The space race was extreemly important, they certainly would have had motive to fake it, but doubt they did..
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real or fake?

More proof?
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting read but it's going to take a bit more than just a web site to proove it to me.

anyways, I have some moon cheese Razz
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think i,ll just go and make a website saying their isnt a planet called Mars!
After all you havnt seen it have you?

point being anybody can make a web site and fill it full of theorys.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a geezer on the Big Breakfast once talking about moon hoax, had some very thought provoking arguements Laughing

What about aliens, do they exists?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been through all this before.

Of course they landed on the moon. They had the will, they had the skill and they had the technology.

Something that is important to note is that electronics in the sixties may well have been less advanced (analogue transistors etc) but it was a LOT more resistant to radiation than modern computer/integrated circuit technology. They aren't allowed to do anything important on the Shuttle laptop in space because it might get a calculation wrong!

If they went back to the moon, the cheapest way would actually be to reinvent the wheel and do exactly as they did back in the sixties. This is because the radiation proof integrated circuit simply does not exist!

No one has advanced in rocketry in the last forty years, simply because there has been no need. No more nuclear missiles, no more cold war. No more cold war also meant no more budget for Nasa.

As far as the 'Did they fake the moon landing' programme goes... have a read of this:

https://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

An addition that I will add that isn't mentioned in that site is that the programme argues that the moon lander did not leave a crater in the ground. Well... the moon lander needed two thousand pounds of thrust to land on the moon. The Harrier GR. MK3 makes somewhere in the reigon of 24,000 pounds of thrust. Does that leave a crater? does it heck!

Incidentally, they are having difficulty replacing the shuttle at the moment because all of the electronics are burning out. They can't replace it like for like because no one makes that stuff any more. So all they are doing is bodging it all together, and taking a laptop up and bungeeing the laptop to the Shuttle bulkhead. If anything goes wrong, they have to initiate re entry quickly, and then use the laptop for navigation once they are away from the radiation of space (IE in the upper atmosphere).


Oh, and the first site that Whosthedaddy posted starts on about UFO's at the bottom... the 'real footage' of UFO's taken by the apollo astronauts! Rolling Eyes

The second site is a good read though! Smile
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and the first site that Whosthedaddy posted starts on about UFO's at the bottom... the 'real footage' of UFO's taken by the apollo astronauts!


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PostPosted: 20:46 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the TV show about a year ago that analysed each theory against the landings - then squashed them all to the point that it would have been embarassing to think they didn't.

Of course they landed there. They are still in touch with a transponder planted firmly in the ground there.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are still in touch with a transponder planted firmly in the ground there.


'beep'

'gonna be long'

'you said you were only going for a paper!'

'Wish you were here?'
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to believe what i've grown up with, that man landed on the moon. I'm happy believing that as it's done me no harm so far. Ignorance is bliss Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if they haven't they will.

If they don't speed up and move more into space then china will.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did man land there?

Yes.

Have we seen the real pics?

No.

IMHO.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 10 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Have we seen the real pics?

No.


Oh course we have. BBC showed them years ago.

https://www.dropping-clangers.co.uk/the%20clangers%20line%20up%20for%20a%20dance.jpg

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PostPosted: 17:12 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
The technology is so much more advanced now, than in the 70's. If could land on the moon 30 years ago, why have'nt we been back?

Cods wallop did they land on the moon Middle Finger


Its 35 years since concorde first flew. Why have'nt they made a replacement for that as well?

Answer,
Because it costs Billions and they cant justify spending it.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the "evidence" presented in any website saying that the moon landings were faked can be easily disproved. Look a bit further on the internet, and you'll find it.

Of course, the evasion of bedrock evidence is standard fare for conspiracy theorists. If pressed they would doubtless claim that all of the the true evidence relating to the moon landings have been planted or manufactured, but they can't even prove such a claim plausible, let alone true beyond a reasonable doubt.

The topic's been done before: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33405

I don't think it's any vague coincidence that on average the people who think the moon landings were faked are the more dim and uneducated members of society.

last time it was discussed, carvell wrote:
I hate it when this debate comes up, it's pathetic.

That programme on channel five was taken from FOX Channel in America, where it was aired a couple of years ago. Needless to say it was complete bollocks, there are photos and evidence disproving all of the stupid claims made in that programme.

The sheer number of poeple that would have to be in on it, and the time since the landings, if it was a hoax, someone who was involved would have said in about 1975, given some proper evidence, and made a few hundred thousand out of it.

Bendy also makes a good point, if it was faked, why do it another siz times.

The following URL contains some information on the programme that was aired on channel 5. It was originally aired on February 15th 2001 in the US, the one aired on channel 5 was exactly the same.

https://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Read the entire thing before commenting on the programme again.

https://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm

Also look at the link above, it contains some pictures that people who believe the rubbish about the pictures being faked might like to see.

https://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html

Some more information and links on the URL above.

The US did land on the moon, now get on with your lives, kthnxbye. Smile

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PostPosted: 17:34 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Carvell, haven't seen you in a bit.

I bumped into your mate Andy Hodgson the other day, and I have a signed photo if you want it! Smile
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

*leaps into marks arms*

Woooooooo!!

Gimmee ghimemmemee mine mine!

I hope you told him he's great.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like to think that they did land on the moon however since it was the cold war and they were in a space race between russia (who got into space first) there was a big motive for them to fake it.

i also dont understand why landing on the moon was better than going into space, media during the war i think ...
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard that neil armstrong met an alien, it basically told him that they were there first and would we please fuck off. The only person he told was lionel ritchie !!
who obviously cant keep a secret because i know. Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Theory that when they landed on the Moon they saw an Alien spaceship.

It's reported that during the transmition Armstrong said something regarding the craft but they shut the link down so that veiwers couldn't hear/see it.

Apperently Armstrong was told to leave and inform his planet that only 'they' were allowed to be there. 'They' are said to be building, or have done, on the Dark side of the Moon.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 11 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I aint gotta clue if they did or not but i do find sites that question the events intresting.

https://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
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