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Simple
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Dear L platers/CBT'ers Reply with quote

Do you know that you have to lube and adjust the drive chain on your motorcycle/geared moped?

> note: the drive chain is the linked chain that runs horizontally from the spiky metal disc at the side of the rear wheel towards the foot peg.

Just thought I'd post this as I've seen far too many L platers with their chains slapping because its so loose and neglected.

I do not know why basic stuff like this isn't mentioned in CBTs I believe it should be.

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PostPosted: 01:37 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is, and that's rather patronising if I do say so myself.

Known more fully licensed riders to have a drive chain fail than L platers.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough, not meant to be patronising, just a 'heads up' for those who didn't know or realise.

people with a full license should know better as if they have recently passed maintainance is covered in the test,
If they are older then they should just know better by now Razz

no patronization in tended... Karma

a chain can fail for many reasons, I mean just being so slack it just hops off the sprocket. not snap due to being tight, neglected, old or any other reason

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PostPosted: 01:42 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why honda fit an anti-derailment plate to the rear sprocket of their learner bikes.
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

not all learners have newer machines, many have the cheap japanese things.

I did notice a ridge on my origional honda sprocket which if the chain came off would have stopped it getting stuck between wheel rim and sprocket.
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fully aware my chain is/was slack thank-you very much. I just didnt bother to tighten it and then crashed it. So chain tightening was not necessay!
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It applies less to L platers anyway, as the vast majority of 50ccs are ungeared and belt driven.

I do agree though that some L platers buy without realising that a motorbike isn't quite like buying a car; it's going to die if you don't maintain it well.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was already aware of this as have had quad etc for years. But they do mention this in the cbt, well they did in mine but i think that may just have been because i was i was there on a geared bike, probably wouldnt have said it otherwise. I think its just a case of the owners being too lazy / forgetful / stupid to do it.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines only come off twice, when i was a l'er but i always keep it nice and tight (to the correct setting yes.) as i have the mrs on the back nearly everyday.

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
It is, and that's rather patronising if I do say so myself.

Known more fully licensed riders to have a drive chain fail than L platers.


I don't think it is too patronising, I think it'd be a good idea to add some basic maintence information into the CBT, as I've met a good few people (one in particular off here) who was a knightmare with his chain. Laughing

It wouldn't have to be anything too heavy, just how to check your chains adjusted correctly & lubed, checking brake function, lubrication & checking tyre pressures etc..
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
It wouldn't have to be anything too heavy, just how to check your chains adjusted correctly & lubed, checking brake function, lubrication & checking tyre pressures etc..


I didn't do my CBT that long ago and they certainly covered these things when I did it Confused I think its more likely that people choose to ignore the info they were given thinking it not that essential.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
as I've met a good few people (one in particular off here) who was a knightmare with his chain. Laughing


it was all part of the learning curve!!! Very Happy I check it and make sure its right before most rides.

The RS was a bit loose at times Confused The chain and sprockets really showed it aswell Confused
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT over 10 years ago, and they told us about the basic daily and weekly checks, including chains and stuff.

That sort of thing's also in the owner's handbook, but I suppose a lot of people don't read theirs (and that's assuming the previous owner didn't lose it!)

I was amazed when a mate of mine who was new to biking asked me how to check and adjust the chain, when he'd had his bike for six months! Then someone else did the same sort of thing "I'll just get it serviced by the dealer, then I won't have to do anything".
By the time the third mate was talking about getting into biking I just jumped in with the mechanical advice.

We experienced bikers (old gits) should be able to help people learn from our mistakes before they make the same ones.
Just try not to be too patronising. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the guy mentioned at the CBT yeh and said there was a book with ALL the stuff in, im popping down 2 waterstones within the next few weeks 2 get it.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kam wrote:
the guy mentioned at the CBT yeh and said there was a book with ALL the stuff in, im popping down 2 waterstones within the next few weeks 2 get it.



waterstones for a haynes manual?

I'd assume thats the book you mean or equivalent?
can get em uber cheap of ebay, sometimes bargain pages, freeads etc too.

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PostPosted: 13:49 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CG125-Haynes-Manual-NEW-CG-125-Honda_W0QQitemZ8042639823QQcategoryZ122250QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Cheap my ass! Will see if any1 has sold any to waterstones or blackwells
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine was £4 from a breakers in coventry.

If you look around I'm sure you would get a cheap one.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got a new CG, or are new to mechanics at all,

The Haynes is utter shit.

The owners manual is far better.

Haynes manual covers 78-2000, nothing after, so forget troubleshooting your electric start or front disc.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
If you've got a new CG, or are new to mechanics at all,

The Haynes is utter shit.

The owners manual is far better.

Haynes manual covers 78-2000, nothing after, so forget troubleshooting your electric start or front disc.


I have the owners manual for the GPZ and it does point out things the haynes misses, I also have the workshop manual for the varadero, which is useless unless your really know what you are doing.

Aren't cg's more or less the same throughout that ages? excuse my ignorance if they are quite different

If you get a second hand haynes, you can always flog it on without too much hassel if you don't/can't get on with it. /shrug/

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