Awful Noise

[Aldbro_Bev]

Please can anyone help?? (preferably with some helpful suggestions)
Bought a Cagiva Canyon 500 single (don't say it, "what dod you wanna go buy one of them for"??) I heared it all before!

Right, Had a little test ride out on the bike when my friend bought it down for me, It's been about a week and a half now, I just went to jump on the bike to take it for M.O.T, got about 150 yds down the road, I'd only nipped round the corner (thankfully) came to the junction, and the bike cut out, but this wasn't really a problem, coz i just thought, "Oh the bikes Cold" went to restart it, The Startings sometimes a bit "Whiny" but this time, the bike started and MADE THE MOST APPALING REALLY LOUD WHINING NOISE, A biker friend who just happened to be stood nearby said, that doesn't sound good, so I thought I'd better stop the engine before i did any damage. I pushed by the bike home, and with the help of another biker mate, we checked the Oil level (all OK there) got the Manual out and started reading, by which time we went back to the bike, and I tried to start it again, to see if there was any difference, and OH yes, this time there's a Really Knocking, Metal against Metal type noise besides the whining sound, When me mate first heared the noise, he said, "maybe Starter Motor Sticking", but then when he heared the "Knocking" sound, he said, "Maybe Not"!

Any ideas as to pointing me in the right direction of a problem, another mate when I Emailed him said, "It sounds expensive"!!
I flippin hope not!!

Clutch, Gearbox??? Something else maybe???

Bev xx
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[veeeffarr]

Sounds painful :/

Can't too lean a mixture cause engine knocking?

[finpos]

1. Don't panic
2. Charge Battery
3. Try again
4. Noise still there? Panic.

finpos.

[Rookie]

That sounds like some piston slap to me? Some sideways movement knocking it against the barrel? If so, would it explain the screeching too.

I'd say you need to control the damage, so get it down to a mechanics without riding it. If a piston is slapping, riding the bike more isn't going to do it any good. Need a new piston and/or a rebore, but luckily isn't that expensive.

[Aldbro_Bev]

Thanks for the advice Cheers

Bev xx
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[Nath]

Your post isn't really that clear. Is the noise only happening whilst the starter motor is turning, or does it carry on once the bike's started?

Piston slap sounds pretty unlikely
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Hard livin', hard luck.

[Aldbro_Bev]

[iCraig]

Whens the last time the bike had a new cambelt?

Or don't you know?

Also the engine in it is a Rotax unit, so they are fairly easy to repair, and there is an abundance of parts for it too.

[Aldbro_Bev]

[Aldbro_Bev]

Does anybody know if the Rotax engine has a "Dry Sump"?? I was playing with a thought?? or possible engine pump failure maybe???
I'm still scouring the Manual for info, and there's not alot here to be going on?? does anybody on here know anybody that has got a Cagiva Canyon??

Bev xx
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[Mark_petty]

Hi,

Could you get a bike mechanic to look at it? i'm sure they will be able to tell you straight away what the problem is.

Sorry to hear about your bike btw

Mark
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[Rides: Suzuki GSF600sx]
[CBT: Passed] [Theory: Passed] [DAS: Passed]

[Aldbro_Bev]

Would you bloody Aadam and Eve it?!!! T'other halfs just gone to it now, started it up wi' no bother at all, the noise isn't there! Bloody Typical!! I still don't trust it though, no sooner will I get down the road, it'll probably start doing it again, it must have made the noise for a reason
Anyway, bugger it today! The suns out, I'm off out to play up on the North York Moors on the VTR So I don't flippin' care about the Cagiva for the next few hours!

Bev xx
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[Mark_petty]

[Aldbro_Bev]

[Jubal]

Sounds like either the starter motor bendix, starter clutch mechanism or solenoid stuck. I'm not familiar with the specifics of this bike but it has to be one of these.
Could even be the starter button itself?

[Aldbro_Bev]

[Mark_petty]

Sorry if I sound stupid but can't you just replace the starter motor? buy from ebay or somewhere else??
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[Rides: Suzuki GSF600sx]
[CBT: Passed] [Theory: Passed] [DAS: Passed]

[Aldbro_Bev]

[Mark_petty]

[Mark_petty]

Right I have done a quick search. Your right parts are as rare as rocking horse sh*t

I found one site:
I think they will locate the part for you but I don't know how much they charge.
https://www.bikesparefinder.co.uk/Bike/CAGIVA/CANYON-500/

It seems the starter motor thing is a common fault
https://www.ukbike.com/h/most-recent.php?section=reviews&Make=Cagiva&Model=Canyon%20500

In the end I went on to www.cagiva.com and found a dealer (seems to be the only one in the uk)
THREE CROSS MOTORCYCLES LTD
Woolsbridge Ind. Est, 6 - Old Barn Farm R.
WIMBONE DORSET
[email protected]

01202-823344
01202-820102

It might be worth giving them a call. I only live about 10 minutes away from Wimborne so if you want I could collect any part and get it sent out to you unless they can send it direct.

Let us know how u get on
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[Rides: Suzuki GSF600sx]
[CBT: Passed] [Theory: Passed] [DAS: Passed]

[killa]

What the hell made you decide to buy that?!





















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[Aldbro_Bev]

[mattd]

Hi Bev,

to Three Cross Motorcycles, they can get all parts for Cagivas....I should know! I had a rarer Cagiva than yours!
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