Networking - so frustrating - help requested!

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Just trying to get 2 computers talking together via a Netgear hub.
One is Windows 2000 and the other Win98SE.

Now both say they're in the same workgroup (HOME_1) but I can't get windows to see either machine. The TCP/IP addresses are ok.

I can ping each PC and I can ping the hub.

I'm now at the banging head against brick wall time.

Any help and assistance and pointers appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation.
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RickHolt · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Karma :

OK I'm a bit lost with networking now. But I used to have a similar problem. Have you got some files actually being shared on the computers? That fixed it for me. They wont see each other properly unless there is something there to use.

I guess it's because on a large network you'd end up with loads of useless computers being listed or something like that.

Rick.

NSR Mick · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Karma :

Is file and printer sharing enabled on both machines?

Also are you logging on to both machines with the same username and password? To be honest mate i find networking 98 to xp / 2000 a ball ache and its my job. Wink

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SimonB · Brolly Dolly Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Karma :

A shot in the dark are you using the same subnet something like 255.255.255.0
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EuropeanNC30R... · Gay Hairdresser Joined: 20 Jun 2002 Karma :

It should be simple but it isn't. I feel for you, having tried to do the same thing before.

Can't quite remember how I solved the problem now, think it was install XP on the other machine Laughing

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

m i k e · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Karma :

Having a similar problem to this at home, except i'm setting up a domain with a windows 2003 server box, normal desktop and i can't for the life of me get the server to accept the joining request from the workstation to join the domain. Possible thing i'm thinking of:

You have the correct cables? straight through or cross over? straight through if your using the hub.

are you sure the cables your using aren't kinked anywhere? i.e. dodgy filaments, etc?

You don't have any third party firewall's running on each machine that could be stopping and background services? If so i'd disable them

minds gone blank, but i'll most likely think of a few more later on when i'm playin about with my boxes

Good luck!

Mike Smile

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natv4 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Karma :

if you can ping, then you should be able to :

click Start, then run.
in the box type: "\\IPADDRESS\"
No quotes, use the IP of the 98 PC instead of IPADDRESS

It sounds like you don't have anything controlling naming on your network. Try installing the netbios protocol on the 98 PC.
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natv4 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Karma :

nearly forgot, if either have a firewall, try disabling it, just to make sure. If this works, then allow the relevant ports for file/print sharing.
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AcIdBuRnZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Karma :

Best way is to map a network drive, that way the machines don't even need to see each other in the workgroup.

If you know it is set up correctly (same IP range/subnet), then share the drive and just map it on the other PC.

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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

natv4 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Karma :

if you can ping both PCs from both PCs, but you can't \\IPADDRESS\ and you have the right protcols/services installed (tcp/ip and microsoft file and print sharing) then you have a firewall (or something that is blocking ports) on at least one of the machines (or between them).

Sorry, I'm out of ideas without looking at it. Good luck!

Incidentally, I take it you have tested the 2 newer machines (XP/2000) and they work ok. If they don't, I'd concentrate on that first and then get 98 working.
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TheBoyChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Karma :

As said earlier in the thread, have you made sure that both machines actually have a folder "Shared"? That solved the problem for me - networking didn't become easy until WinXp Smile

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AcIdBuRnZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Karma :

AcIdBuRnZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Karma :

Any update yet?
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89CBRChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Karma :

A few suggestions here that I don't think have been done yet (only skim read the post though)

have you checked the local sucurity policy on the PC (this may be the win2K one only havn;t touched 98 in years so not sure if it is in there)

on the Win2K click

Control Panel

Administrative Tools

Local Security Policy

Now look under Sucurity Settings --> Local Policies --> User Rights Assignment

then check in the window on the right that the setting "Access this computer from the network" has 'Everyone' In it and the setting "Deny Access to this computer from the network" only has the "Support _######" in it if it has "guest" then remove this as guest would be the account it would use for anonymous access.

Then go to the "Security Options" section (which is under the User Rights Assignment bit on the left)

and check that in here the guest account is enabled (should show as Account:Guest Account Status) if it says N/A or anything other than Enabled/Disabled here then go to User management and make sure the guest account is enabled.

I hope this has all made sense and may be of some help, if your still stuck send me a PM with your phone number (landline preferably as I get free calls) and i'll give you a ring later tonight to see if we can get them talking to each other.
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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Thank-you AcidBurnz & 89CBRChris for your recent posts.
I'm tied up on other things until the weekend so I'm hoping to get back to it then.

I'll have a look at your suggestions and post back here any updates.

Thanks once again for taking the time to give me your input.
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