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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Oil Filter Wrenches Reply with quote

share your filter tool woes! to this point i've tried quite a few, and to be honest the most effective was stabbing a screw driver through and turning

i had to change my car oil last week, first time id done it, so i went and bought one of those 3 arm filter wrenches that claims to grip tighter the more force you apply, my god if it wasnt the biggest load of useless shit ever, for 16 quid

after we scraped all the paint off the filter and it wasnt budging, we reverted to the chain type tool, which i dont like either, but after much cursing it got it off, only because it squeezes a dent into the filter thus has something to grip on

the rubber band type ones i have never ever got to grip the filter, as the filter is never perfectly clean and they just slip and slip

im just about to bid on a fitted socket type one, as this can surely be fool proof as long as the fit is the same, the honda car filter looked identical kind of size to the bike one, so assuming they tend to stick to the same kinda size

what does everyone else favour?
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally use a piece of an old webbing belt round the filter then grip the ends tight in a pair of mole grips with the top outer jaw (the curved bit) against the side of the filter. Simply pull down and your filter comes undone. Never failed me yet.
I tried some fancy 3 arm ratchet jobbie but as wild goose says, They're shit. Really awkward to use and not very good if you cen get the bugger one right.
I also bought a proper socket, but then I changed bikes and it was a different size filter so I went back to the webbing strap.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screwdriver never let me down yet! Thumbs Up I have got a tool for it recently (was only £1) copy of the Sykes Pickavant one, not tried it as yet though.

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PostPosted: 21:21 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has never let me down ...

https://www.metalnerd.com/cartimages/mn341700.jpg



.... but as I do my own servicing it's always tightened up correctly in the first place Wink
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/products/mid/MM040211424C.jpg

Genius. Used to have a chain-over-the-top, ratchet thing that was a pain in the arse. This is great. Clamp it on to my filter, then the socket extender fits between the pipes and it's twist and gone. Very Happy

However, if in doubt, screwdriver + hammer is both effective and mildly satisfying.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what you want mate, It'll take off any filter. I lost mine when I was in London last week, you would think you would be able to buy one of them in a wee place like London wouldn't you? Confused
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a K&N one - they have a nut on the top so you can use a spanner to get them off Thumbs Up

https://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Graphics/KN%20Oil%20Filter.jpg

Failing that, hammer and screwdriver every time Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 05 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A stilson also does the job if you can get one inabout.

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PostPosted: 00:21 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobB that is almost the exact one that was a complete pile of arse Confused

and not sure about yours either true blue, had some like that, there is no friction not sure what the designers are thinking

tend to only buy OE filters, so a nut on the top would be too much to ask Sad
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screwdriver and hammer is great. Untill you find a really really tight filter, and the screwdriver gradually tears it's way round the cartridge. When the top is torn off the old filter and there's nothing left to grip, what then???

The big socket thing that fits the filter end is obviously best, failing that I find the 3 arm one works for me . . .
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a nifty little tool I bought from halfords for removing oil filters.

Basically looks like this:

https://www.toolweb.com.tw/Oil%20Filter/MW7051.jpg


Done the job every time, just bites into the side of the filter then twist.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: Oil Filter Wrenches Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
and to be honest the most effective was stabbing a screw driver through and turning


Laughing Nothing beats a bit of 'BFI' - brute force and ignorance Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: Oil Filter Wrenches Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
WildGoose wrote:
and to be honest the most effective was stabbing a screw driver through and turning


Laughing Nothing beats a bit of 'BFI' - brute force and ignorance Thumbs Up


OR you can change em a tiny bit before they seize on.

I did the CBR with my fingers the other day Laughing

But yeh i was gonna say, just buy K + N's, with the nut on the top.

Or if in doubt, the screwdriver through the end with a hammer.

Would be interesting to find out how many people have nobbled their filter pickup thread to pieces smacking it in to close Laughing

Or anyone whose threaded it Confused
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
RobB that is almost the exact one that was a complete pile of arse Confused

Had no problems at all with mine, on bike or car. That picture isn't actually my one, think mine is a Draper tool. Also only cost £8.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A screwdriver and hammer do the trick for me, just you have to be careful not to hit the screw thread protruding from the engine. Embarassed

Despite the filter telling you to torque it to 15 Nm or something when you fit it, with a good smear of new oil on the O-ring, you can just do it up tight enough with your hand. There're no problems getting it off then, and so far (a thousand miles later) it still hasn't leaked any oil that I can see.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo thats the tool I have, amazing tool never fails Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just use my hand..... i mustt be strong Wink
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobB wrote:
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/products/mid/MM040211424C.jpg

Genius. Used to have a chain-over-the-top, ratchet thing that was a pain in the arse. This is great. Clamp it on to my filter, then the socket extender fits between the pipes and it's twist and gone. Very Happy

However, if in doubt, screwdriver + hammer is both effective and mildly satisfying.


Thats the same as the one I bought. Pile of wank. Cant use it on the yzf as it fouls on the pipes. Couldn't use it on the car either. Complete waste of time.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: Oil Filter Wrenches Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
the most effective was stabbing a screw driver through and turning


That works well on the removal, but fitting gets a bit messy Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 06 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my dad has one with a steel band and a long hand screw. When you turn the hand screw the steel band tightens around the filter.

It's not failed so far! Smile
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 07 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
and not sure about yours either true blue, had some like that, there is no friction not sure what the designers are thinking


It's never failed yet. Smile I take off some pretty tight (and large) filters all the time in my work and that's the only kind I would use. Don't forget, it attaches to a 1/2 inch drive ratchet. Wink
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 07 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually use the easy method of paying somebody else to do it Thumbs Up

But its expensive and i really need to learn to do it meself Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 07 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

a knackered old half inch drive socket, knackered Fiesta timing chain welded onto it, cost nothing, has worked with no problems for 20 years now.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 07 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The large socket type removers are best. Stabbing a screwdriver through them isn't ideal as it's very messy, but it is however what I do if I can't undo them by hand (with some grippy gloves on). I once broke a screwdriver though on a really siezed filter, had to hammer an axle through it instead.

I wouldn't personally use the K&N Filters, they do have a nut on the end of them, but I've seen a report by someone who cut up all the major filter brands to look at the quality of the filter paper and valve systems in them, K&N was very bad quality in comparison. Genuine manufacturer filters came out among the best with only Hi-Filtro coming out better and some unheard of american make, so I'll always use Hi-Filtro or original ones if I can get them.

As for tightening filters, I always do them hand tight, then put a rag around them and tighten them up a bit more.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 07 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my mondeo I've tried all of the above tools and then some. After servicing it more than 10 times, I can safely say that the best tool is a pair of latex gloves. Simply make sure the filter is clean and dry then grab hold and twist by hand, the amount of turning force and grip you get is quite suprising.

simple...but effective
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