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Barney
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Tyre cracking Reply with quote

I've never really had any confidence in my front tyre, Dunlop K505f but moneys tight and can't afford a new tyre Sad

Since the roads have dried up I've noticed these cracks appearing on the tyre and where it joins with the rims.

Is this serious and what causes it? I know its going to need a change, but how soon?

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PostPosted: 14:03 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty serious. Smaller cracks are no problem, but they look huge, and your tread is low anyway. Get it changed as soon as you can. My front is cracked, but not to that extent.

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PostPosted: 14:08 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look knackered Shocked

Is it kept outside? i think the sun can do this to them maybe.. but more likely age and wear.. or maybe its been over/under inflated at some point?

My front tyre is about 7 years old (it had been not runing for a fair few years) and looks a hell of allot better than that!


Think of it this way, your tyres are the only thing in contact with the road, have one fail suddenly and you'll know about it Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, bit of a wake up call that, its due a service so I'm sure they will mention the tyre condition. Its just funny how quickly the cracks appeared within a week.

Yeah it is kept outside mr.z usually with a cover though.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's stood for a while, even out of the sun, the tyre will crack. It just loses its flexibility...

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PostPosted: 15:52 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

how longs the tyre been on - looks like a good two years or so!!! i would change it asap if it was my bike!!!! Thumbs Up

better safe than sorry

ps - read the thread about having a blowout!!!!
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id change them, even if it means not having cash to spend on other things. Id rather spend money which I havnt got on a tyre than spend money I havnt got repairing a smashed up bike due to having a blow out going round a courner...
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooly R6 wrote:
how longs the tyre been on - looks like a good two years or so!!! i would change it asap if it was my bike!!!! Thumbs Up

better safe than sorry

ps - read the thread about having a blowout!!!!


Not exactly sure how long, obviously too long.

So can I just turn up at a somewhere like 'quick fit' and get them to sort it? How much are they likely to charge?
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also does anyone have any experience with BT45s or BT92s? Which is the better one for long motorway milage and the occasional weekend blast.

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PostPosted: 17:29 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easist thing to do is remove the front wheel and take it along to a bike garage and have them fit it and balance it to the loose wheel. If you don't have another form of transport, you'll probably have to ride there and pay a bit extra for them to remove the wheel.

Make sure they've got the tyre you're after and don't just turn up. I had to order in the BT45s I fitted to my XJ600n which took a few days. Once fitted and scrubbed in they were so much better than my old squared off ones. Now the bike doesn't scare the shit out of me when I go over cats eyes too Thumbs Up

Alternately, you could just buy the tyre and fit it yourself, but I wouldn't attempt that myself, I'd have to get some help...and we wouldn't be able to balance it either.

My BT45s were about £160 for the pair, but can't recall exactly what size. Something in the region of 110/70 17R for the rear if memory serves, so not huge tyres by any measure. That was fitted to loose wheels I brought with me in the car.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks for that Redd. So its ok to remove the front wheel on the centre stand and balance it out after? *EDIT* thats confusing, I will need a paddock stand right?

I'll order the BT45 from mandp, its 110/70/17 for the front so it only costs about 60 pounds.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:
So its ok to remove the front wheel on the centre stand and balance it out after?


If you've got the bike on the centre stand and take the front wheel off, the bike will fall since it leans on the front wheel. What we did (I say we, it was mostly Banditshigh that did the work Thumbs Up ) was put the bike on the centre stand then put a couple of axle stands under the frame at the front to support the weight. Tricky on your own I'd imagine, might want someone else there to help make sure the bike doesn't fall.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was running the same tyres up untill about 10 minutes ago. Just got in from fitting a set of D207's. But exactly the same things had happened to my set in the past week with all the good weather weve been having. Again i never trusted the tyre's they've got no grip at all, but they came fitted to the bike so i thought may aswell run them out as im not gonna be pushing the bike in winter. But as soon as i saw the cracking i ordered a new set and they were on within 3 days and i would advice you to do the same, but from the posts above that looks like what your gona do.

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PostPosted: 18:16 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

check your tyre pressure
low pressure puts more strain on the tyres, cracking them

i had this on a front tyre on an rs125
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:
Also does anyone have any experience with BT45s or BT92s? Which is the better one for long motorway milage and the occasional weekend blast.


BT92s would be better between the two. If it was my choice, I'd opt for an 090 front and a 92 rear - good front end grip, but with durability too.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:
Also does anyone have any experience with BT45s or BT92s? Which is the better one for long motorway milage and the occasional weekend blast.

Cheers.


BT020s or Avon Azaros. Both are dual compound touring tyres ideal for m-way mile munching. The central portion is a harder compund than the sides which have the grippier compound.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should always ring around, *because*...
Redd wrote:
My BT45s were about £160 for the pair

... I paid about £125 for a pair of BT45s, including fitting to loose wheels. I'm not gloating, just pointing out how different places can charge drastically different prices for the same thing (and one place I rang wanted nearly £200).


The tyres on my 550 are at least 10 years old, and cracked to fuck (far more than yours). I'm not enjoying riding on them, but I don't want to shell out for new ones just yet. I'm not sure if there's any chance of the tyre leaking air with tubeless tyres, but I'd probably be more worried if mine weren't tubed.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 11 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BT020s or Avon Azaros. Both are dual compound touring tyres ideal for m-way mile munching. The central portion is a harder compund than the sides which have the grippier compound.


It's a 400, I'm not sure if the sports touring tyres will ever get up to a nice enough temperature on a smaller bike. (They're Z rated - for machines of 600cc +). I had a few confidence issues when I thought fitting D207s to my RVF would be a good compromise between grip and durability. Was fine for the longevity, lasted 3,000 miles (well before their use by date) before I ditched them for H-rated GPRs (which offered an immediate improvement (and are also dual compound)).
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 12 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replies. What would I do without BCF? Rolling Eyes Smile

I've gone for the 090 on the front. Cheers Thumbs Up
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