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Chiz
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: 'SV650 Value? Reply with quote

Is this a decent price, i've had a look on ebay and biketrader and seems ok:

Suzuki SV650
1999 model
7000 miles
£2250

I know how cheap they are new, plus the new 0% finance deal, and i don't want to pay too much for a bike that is going to go down in value.

btw, its already restricted so that'll save me £150.

What do you reckon?
Thanks,
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

id recommend test riding a few bikes b4 u decide what you are getting
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus:
Full service history
rear paddock stand
mini toolkit
chain lock
thatcham cat2 disc lock
rear hugger
bellypan

Most dealers won't let me test ride bikes (afaik) because i'm only 17.
I lke the look of the bike, and everybody says its fun to ride and a good first big bike.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theyre a good first big bike apparently. Not a lot of point test riding a few at this stage, just sit on a few.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's one of the least fun sports style bikes you can get.
But that also means that it's easy to ride to some degree and a good first bike in my opinion.

Personally I wouldn't want to be paying that much at all for a 99 bike. About a month ago I paid £1k for a 20k mile 99 bike, had a couple of minor things to sort, but not a problem.
Took me quite a while to find one that good value though.

Personally I would look at around the £1.5k end for bikes with a bit higher mileage maybe - I reckon you'll lose less on these and you'll have £750 to get bike kit etc, or do something else fun with Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats more than I paid for a 2000 J model ZX6R mate.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so if i can haggle it down a bit then it might be worth a shot? What do you reckon is the max its worth? £1800?
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've offered £1750, what does everyone reckon, if its too high i'll just leave it. It seems like a good deal to me, but then again i've paid too much for a bike before.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To much - see here

The mere fact that there are so many SV's around means you can afford to be picky. So if you're after a curvy (old style) SV then look closely at the engine for corrosion as the build quality's not quite as good as the newer pointy style. If it's heavily pitted then turn away as a full service history is irrelevant. The lack of washing shows how caring he really is Wink

Also ignore G above Rolling Eyes. If somethings sells in large numbers it's good for a reason. You don't sell lots of bikes unless they are fun to ride and since the naked unfaired version is there to cover the commuting aspect, the faired is mainly sold to cover the pleasure side of the market....... The SV650s (faired version) was last years 9th top selling bike. nuff said Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do sell lots of bikes if they are not fun to ride. Ok the C90 can actually be a hoot to ride, but that's not the reason it's the best selling bike in the history of bikes.
I believe the c90 was maybe the top selling bike or up there in the top three - haven't seen any owners claim it's funner than the sportier oppositon. They do however say they got it for the cheap price and ease of use.

Plenty of people choose a faired bike for commuting - I definitely don't want to be doing 50 motorway miles a day on an unfaired bike (though it might help me not riding so fast Confused).
Also I said I find it boring, not that everyone does. He has obviously heard the other side of the story, so it seems fair that he should hear that some people don't like them as well?
Should he also ignore me saying it's a good first bike and is easy to ride? Smile
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:

Also ignore G above Rolling Eyes. If somethings sells in large numbers it's good for a reason.


9th best selling isnt that great for a budget bike, there arent that many diiferent budget bikes sold new in england

G said its a good first bike as its easy to ride. nothing wrong with that.

the cbr125 sells well but that doesnt make it a good bike.

i think the sv650 is more fun than quite a few bikes including the gsx600f, but bazza will be along in a sec to say that i know nothing and i just dont know how to ride a gsx600f properly

personally i think the rs125 is more fun than the sv650, and a modern 400 IL4 sports bike wd be good
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
and a modern 400 IL4 sports bike wd be good


There are modern 400's Question Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know of any modern 400cc in line 4 sports bikes.

as far as i know they stopped making them

i wd like a modern equivalent of a vfr400, cbr400 or zxr400

if you know otherwise, name the bike
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
i dont know of any modern 400cc in line 4 sports bikes.


Then why did you advise on getting one?

Or did you mean "If they made them, they would be good," which is totally irrelevant?
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently bought a '99 SV650 SX for less than £1300.
It has high mileage at just less than 30k but is in mechanically really good condition.
Fairly new tyres, chain & sprockets, ect.

Came with straight bars and yoke off of a naked, gsxr750 rear shock, WP front internals, original parts supplied along with workshop manual and viper race can.

I bought it because at that price I couldn't resist.
I would have prefered a 6R J1 or a Bimota V Due but meh, there's plenty of time in the future for that.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
COLINWALL wrote:
i dont know of any modern 400cc in line 4 sports bikes.


Then why did you advise on getting one?

Or did you mean "If they made them, they would be good," which is totally irrelevant?


I didnt advise on getting one.

i said a modern inline 4 400 would be good

thats not irrelevant because suzuki have made the sv650 for that market(im thinking ppl who wnt a sportsbike but dont want the inusrance bill of a 600), so maybe we will get a modern 400 at some point.

extreme said that there are modern 400s

i then asked like what cos i dont know of any.

ive got my 600 now, but i would have been interested in a modern 400

i wdnt advise on getting an old 400 as i think they are over priced and generally knackered unless you know what to look for and i wouldnt.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
extreme said that there are modern 400s


I think he was taking the piss.

It was just the way you said "a modern 400 IL4 sports would be good" like you were advising him to get one. Maybe they will make some more at some point, but that hardly helps the guy now, so it was irrelevant.

I'm not having a go, but you did seem to contradict yourself, which confused me somewhat.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
I think he was taking the piss.


Yeah, the question mark gave it away! But Colinwall has made a valid point and that is Suzuki made the SV for that market. At group 10 the SVs is a lot cheaper than the typical group 14/15 for an IL4 600.

It's normal to add 250cc for a V twin which lands the SV firmly as a 400, yet the SV makes a lot of power for it's class which means it can play (in the right hands) with the 600cc + IL4's

As to a 400 vs an SV. Whilst it's perfectly possible to make a 400 match an SV in performance terms, it takes a lot of money to do so and you will never match the torque. So it's much easier and cheaper to get a stock bike with a bigger CC and just get on with the riding.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wasnt thinking of performance, i was just thinking of fun

the gsx600f 'performs' better but it doesnt do bends very well and isnt comfy enough to cruise on

the sv650 has nice flickable handling ideal for country lanes

however on country lanes i like a revvy peaky engine

i liked the v twin of the sv650 for gentle cruising tho. it reminded me a bit of a diesel car in that its got quite a bit of torque at low revs so you can cruise at low revs easily.

to be honest i had thought the sv650 was in the same group as cbr400 etc, but it makes sense that it is a lot lower

an sv650 probably wd have made more sense for me if i was 20 rather than 30 as insurance is cheap for me on a bike
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

chiz take a look at this
2002 street fightered tt600
£1400
its a proper sportsbike but without the fairings

not having fairings can be a good thing as they break if you drop the bike Embarassed

insurance is a bit less than most 600s

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=74655

Ive got a 2001 tt600 and nothing else came close for the price.

I tried about 20 bikes before I bought mine and the only one that I liked more was a £2500 98r1. Thundercat was quite good but didnt handle aswell and they are older with higher mileage.

https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/822/tt600z3op.jpg
https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2702/tt600y7xp.jpg
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/848/tt600x2aq.jpg

suspension is better than an sv650
brakes are better than an sv650
performance is better than an sv650
i find it more fun to ride than an sv650
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also fugly if you ask me (no offence, John). It looks like some Voodoo Shamen has come along and shrunken its head. Thumbs Down It's still got clip-ons on it.

Faired bikes should stay faired.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

it will still ride nice though

it looks better than mine does, cos at least that one has the wraparound panels around the seat

if you think that is a rough and ready streetfighter job, wait till u see mine Smile (Its runs now so i will bring it to bassetts)

if necessary, he could always get farings and a standard light for it although if he wants to do that he might as well buy a tt600 that comes with them

mine was £1900 when it had all its fairings in place but occasionally you can get them for less on ebay

the engine on a tt600 is not as othergood other sports 600s of the same year, but its cheaper to buy and insurance is less.
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