So what's the crack with speed cameras and bikes? can/can't?

Sparky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Karma :

MCN go on about how they have proved speed cameras cant get bikes anymore as they have never been tested on them and give a false reading etc...

ive heard stories backing this and others saying ignore it they can do you for speeding with this that and the other type of camera's etc.....

im confused Crying or Very sad

what speed cameras can do you and what can't?

Speed Gun

Police in car camera

Back window of a camera van parked up in layby

Gatso

Them yellow cameras that judge speed over 1 mile on motorways

I approached a camera van opposite side of road yesterday at approx 140mph on the way to Windermere and im cacking it a bit, i slowed down but think he got me and they will have my plate as dont they have cameras in the front now aswell for this reason, 2 weeks to wait for brown envelope Mad

or does someone know if il be ok?
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killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

If you were doing well over the limit you should just accept the penalty.

MCN wrote a huge article about this shortly after I was caught doing 58 in a 50, now, the percentage I could have been over 50 is very little, but you add this with the fact the camera can not get an accurate reading from a bikes rear, and I was probably travelling at the right speed.

You can have a go in court if you want but I wouldn’t quote MCN’s findings, they seriously don’t give a shit.
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bennyboy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

Why should he just accept it? If hes doing 140 that means loss of licence and big trouble. U need a plan m8
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NSR Mick · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Karma :

if your going like a tool you wont get done for speeding anyway it'll be hiked up to dangerous driving. Thats what I got done for when caught doing 110 in a 30 and they couldnt prove a speed.
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Sparky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Karma :

ha ha i need a big hole to swallow me up Benny!

il ring me mum she gets me out of everything! insurance jobs the lot she's ace!

i dont agree with fleecing/conning the system but i do when i fuck up Mr. Green

a mate was right behind me! can i argue that the camera could have been picking up on 2 objects?
there were no line markings on the road (like on the motorway) would they have needed them to judge my distance.

ohhhh help! Embarassed

i shoulda just been fookin sensible Sad

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phk6 · Nearly there... Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Karma :

my uncle did 130 in a 30 zone (long straight road wide as fook 30mph speed limit is daft down there) any way he went straight past one of the big yellow fixed cameras and he dint even get a letter so he must of been going to fast for it to register him so u could be lucky and get away with it at that speed.
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Wooly R6 · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 May 2005 Karma :

go and fly through a few and let me know in a few weeks - be my guest!!! Thumbs Up

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Darren Griffin · L Plate Warrior Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Karma :

SoND · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Karma :

At 140 it's going to be pretty hard to read and write down a numberplate.
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Sparky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Karma :

darren: u seem to think il be safe Question

you playing wid my balls or what?
is this a true statement of camera answers?
if they dont have forward facing cameras in the vans what are all them black units in the front window?

just to clarify in case people think i was in a 30zone........
i was doing approx 135-140mph just coming off a 2 lane duel carriageway into a 1 laner round a large sweeping bend when i spotted the yellow/orange van with black back window (see pic). he was opposite side of the road so i was heading towards him. i slammed on the brakes so hard and got below 50 rather quickly and piddled passed him my mate did same now i know these vans have cameras fixed in the front windscreen to get bikes as other wise we would never ever get done would we so it surely must be able to detect a bikes speed.
i know im awaiting the brown envelope, i know i was wrong and hey i know it was my own stupid fault but the point of this post was that i was wondering what people knew the real facts about this camera detecting bikes argument as it would help others aswell as me for the future.

thanks for listening.......... Wink

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XS1954 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Karma :

You should be ok then as the camera is in the rear of the van and you say you had reduced your speed by then.
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

If the camera takes a reading using red shift of a light wave, then you're scott free if they can't prove it hit your numberplate. It could have hit a spoke, tyre tread or anything, and give a crazily false reading.

That camera van looks like it uses a light gun, too so if you contest that you can get off the hook with relatively little squirming.

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Sparky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Karma :

Spot on! cheers Jack

Il await now and see if i get a letter. if i do il let you know if i get done and the punishment dished out or if i get off with it il say how for others to use in the future.

beware people these sunny weekends on open roads they are waiting for us, im gonna keep it nippy on the bends now and chill on the straights keep that for motorways and trackdays.

cheers all! Thumbs Up

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

First off, pretty sure that they are not allowed to catch people accross opposing lanes.
This means that if they were on other side of the road they shouldn't be able to do you.

Second, never seen one with a camera in the front.
If they want to catch bikes, they use it as 'rear facing'. Get plenty of bikes this way, just need to park behind a truck, tree etc or use some of their more subtle vans.

And thus contrary to what Darren says you can get done by one from the rear of a van, providing it's rear facing. They could get your speed from a fromt facing one and write down your plate as well.
The picture isn't a legal thing, just to clarify things and make it easier for them.

Philwild · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Karma :

I know for a fact that you can get done by a camera facing out the back of a camera van because it happened to me a couple of months ago.

On Millbrook Road in Southampton the speed limit changes from a 50 to a 40 by the train station and guess what was parked just around the bend after the limit changes....

I slowed down as soon as I saw the van and thought that he couldn't get me because my numberplate is on the back. I cruised passed them at 40 and the bloke stepped out of the van with a notepad and calmly took down my details.

I received a NIP a few days later for 60 in a 40. The camera was deadly accurate because I definately was doing this speed!

Lucky really because I was late for work and going slightly faster than that before the bend!!

Maybe I could have argued it due to no numberplate being on the photo but I couldnt be bothered really. It would end up in court arguing over a £60 fine and 3 points and if I lost, I would only get stitched up with the court costs as well!

R6Armadillo · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Karma :

Camera vans can definitely catch you from the opposite side of the road as one got me a few years back. I did see it be it was just round a bend so too late to slow by then.
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Skunkcap Freddie · Brolly Dolly Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Karma :

if the camera was taken from inside the van through a wind screen then you can get the case chucked. as the glass can mess with the reading.

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Sparky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Karma :

sweet........ cheers fellas!
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XS1954 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Karma :

A van can catch you from either side of the road, so long as both sides have the required signs. I can't think of any reason why it would be thrown out of court.
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