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PostPosted: 14:19 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Nearly punted a biddy, Reply with quote

I left posting this till now justincase the plod came round as I left the 'scene'

I'm filtering past stationary traffic by the Ricoh Arena in coventry, towards red lights, as I'm 5 cars from the front lights go amber, Smile

as I'm 3 cars from front they go green, Sad

as I get to the front I'm accelerating because traffic is moving off, Surprised

As I got to the front I see a biddy(60ish), Shocked directly in my way, tottering across the road infront of me.... shes in the middle of 5 lanes of traffic! the lights would have been amber when she left the kerb, and green by the 2nd lane, why did she do it? Mad

the traffic which had started to move off has stopped or is rolling slowly having seen biddy.


So I slam the rear brake on (which won't do much anyway) and gradually apply the front hoping to dodge still oblivious biddy.

I get right upto her, she has by this point seen me, has stopped turned ( cartoon stylie) to face me, dropped her bag and started to scream, Rolling Eyes

I dodge to the left of her, stop a little way on, look back and shes still stood there, the traffic is still where it was,

I sorted my gears out and rode off home... I look in my mirrors and some one in a golf has hooned it off the lights after me, I think cack! unmarked plod car Sad I pull over into left lane (dual carriage way) and he goes straight past, Middle Finger

that put the wind up me more than the biddy.

I'm still slightly concerned that I wasn't bothered or alarmed by the sight of a stupid oblivious woman in the road, or that I could have punted her across an Island, Death by GPZ... Confused would have made such a nasty mess of my yellow jacket Sick
I must have missed her by milimeters. Perhaps now she will think more carefully about waiting for the next red light instead of risking urnning across,

or just mayb right now she is writing to her local PM about the menace of motorcycles on our roads. Rolling Eyes
*and breath*
plod havent been around my house after me... so When I go out tomorrow I'll probably see one of those boards saying 'incident here any witnessess'

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PostPosted: 14:30 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

forget about it , worrying won't change a thing and writting to MPs is no longer effective as MPs are too busy with their noses in the trough, be wary if you find your self in the same situation in 50 or so years time as theres NO way I'm going to be frail and old , do what those Chinese martial artists do they are 80ish and are as fit as 18YOs (not british 18 YOs obviously) failing that I'll cyborg myself up and you'll find yourself with a motorcycle heat seeking missile chasing you.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 or so years, no danger of that, I'm not staying in this cuntry besides motorcyclefanglemachines will be banned by then I suspect too Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but you might emigrate where I emigrate to,
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt it

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet, you were filtering, coming up to a set of traffic lights with the vision either side of you and of the upcoming pedestrian crossing obscurred and were unable to slow down without giving the woman a heart attack and had to dodge round her?

Methinks you were travelling too bloody quickly, personally.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Methinks you were travelling too bloody quickly, personally.


Me thinks she deserves a pat on the back. Congrats on scaring the old cow Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam_P wrote:
And yet, you were filtering, coming up to a set of traffic lights with the vision either side of you and of the upcoming pedestrian crossing obscurred and were unable to slow down without giving the woman a heart attack and had to dodge round her?

Methinks you were travelling too bloody quickly, personally.



nope me thinks the brakes on the GPZ be shite, they used to be good but have gone dull, they are not spungy, just unresponsive,

I dont know how I didnt see her sooner, there were no vans, all cars which I could see over,

I was travelling at 35mph,

I was going slower but had sped up as the traffic moved up so as not to get squashed (because car drivers cant use roundabouts they all dive for the same lane)

I could have braked harder on the front, but why should I throw my bike on the floor (again) to avoid hitting someone or thing when I could dodge them mor effectively?

she was about 1.5metres away from the front of the cars that were at the front, I wouldnt have stopped at 10mph in that distance let alone at 35
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you know your brakes aren't that great and yet were still riding at 35mph filtering through traffic?

You realise that if this had all been on your hazerd perception theory test you'd have failed and been rebooking your next appointment about now?

I agree that the old lady probably shouldn't have been crossing the road as the lights had changed, but you are aware that once a pedestrian has stepped more than two steps into a road they have right of way... don't you? (Or at least, I think that used to be the case, but it may have changed) So she was probably well within her rights to be on the crossing.

I'm surprised you were filtering at that point at that speed in the first place, especially if you were worried about cars swapping lanes for a roundabout...
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought 35mph is a bit quick for filtering?
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, clearly the old woman's fault there.
They walk around at 1/2 a mile an hour, gawping at the ground and expecting the world to watch out for them.
These old people should take responsibility for thier own safety instead of flirting with danger at any given opportunity.
She was probably after a new set of hips on the NHS and jumped out in front of the bike at the last minute. Well avoided Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell were you doing??????

































Ya should of hit her Thumbs Up Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's just unlucky, But if the cars at the front were stationary where the biddy was, and you were 5 cars back, how come you were doing 35mph? Surely you saw the cars weren't moving.

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PostPosted: 15:29 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I get right upto her, she has by this point seen me, has stopped turned ( cartoon stylie) to face me, dropped her bag and started to scream,


Laughing Daft old bint Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: Nearly punted a biddy, Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
ISo I slam the rear brake on (which won't do much anyway) and gradually apply the front hoping to dodge still oblivious biddy.


With braking techniques like this, I wouldn't really like you filtering beside me either.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

one word .... "Observation" If it was your test you would have failed! Filtering too fast and not looking for obstacles. Learn from it as next time you may clip the pedestrian and be the one sliding down the road.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
one word .... "Observation" If it was your test you would have failed! Filtering too fast and not looking for obstacles. Learn from it as next time you may clip the pedestrian and be the one sliding down the road.


The problem is the more likely scenario would be that because of the age of the old lady she'd be dead and Simple would be facing a spell at her majesty's pleasure.

And all because the brakes are spongy... (and the fact that they were going too fast...)
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't know how any of you can say she was filtering too fast, or was poorly unobservant, since you weren't there, and are basing your comments on your interpretation of her written interpretation of her actions.

give the girl a chance.. so often I hear of people having a near miss on here, which may, or may not, have been their fault, and yet there's always umpteen posts telling them they were riding too fast/recklessly/without looking. unless you KNOW what happened, how about some benefit of the doubt rather than condemnation?

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PostPosted: 16:35 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should of happy slapped her on the way past Very Happy

Well done for dodging, and well done for pulling over, i would of just fooked off Thumbs Up

silly bint.

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PostPosted: 16:42 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
don't know how any of you can say she was filtering too fast, or was poorly unobservant, since you weren't there, and are basing your comments on your interpretation of her written interpretation of her actions.





I am not or wasn't Flaming her just stating the facts from the information given.
Maybe if it was a teenager running accross, then you may not have seen him/her, but a biddy wouldn't be sprinting would she?? So there would be plenty of time to see her if the junction was approached at the correct speed for the road/traffic conditions.

Lesson learned I hope Question
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
don't know how any of you can say she was filtering too fast, or was poorly unobservant, since you weren't there, and are basing your comments on your interpretation of her written interpretation of her actions.


Yes, quite, that's all we have to go on. But that's what she's told us happened. If that's what happened then my initial opinion is that she was travelling slightly too quickly for the scenario. She said she was going slower than that before that point.

feef wrote:

give the girl a chance.. so often I hear of people having a near miss on here, which may, or may not, have been their fault, and yet there's always umpteen posts telling them they were riding too fast/recklessly/without looking. unless you KNOW what happened, how about some benefit of the doubt rather than condemnation?


I'm not condemning her. I completely agree that the daft battleaxe shouldn't have been on the pedestrian corssing at that point in time anyway. (Old people eh? Laughing Wink ) And I can alsotake in the comedy value of the granny screaming with her hands in front of her face as she appraoched!
But it still doesn't alter the fact that from the information she has given us it sounds like she was travelling too fast to pull up in time. Whether that's down to the brakes or her speed (or combined?) I don't know.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

we dont know if you could have stopped without dodging her

but if you think its possible that you could of, you could practice some proper emergency stops in a car park, rather than the sedate ones we have to do to pass our test
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight and all that... well done on averting the accident, the old git didnt attempt to save herself in any way. Now you know what to look out for in future Wink
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
don't know how any of you can say she was filtering too fast, or was poorly unobservant, since you weren't there, and are basing your comments on your interpretation of her written interpretation of her actions.

give the girl a chance.. so often I hear of people having a near miss on here, which may, or may not, have been their fault, and yet there's always umpteen posts telling them they were riding too fast/recklessly/without looking. unless you KNOW what happened, how about some benefit of the doubt rather than condemnation?

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Totally agree. omg1111one111one11 you were going 1mph too fast.

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 24 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my defence I didnt whole heartedly put effort into stopping as I knew that I wouldn't have been able to,

Since that prick of a boy racer forced me to take evasive action at bassets pole and I ended up on the floor I'm now hesitent to grab the front brake, which is understandable,

Instead I planned to dodge her, which worked.

Get off your soap box Adam P.

The traffic was stationary because they are slow to move off, the lights can be green for a while at the island and no one moves because they've fallen asleep. the lights take the piss.

and no 35mph filtering in a 50mph 5 lane carriage way with barriers so there are no pedestrians is not too fast,

35mph is the speed I last saw on my clocks before I got ot the front, so realistically it wa salot less,

I did not anywhere say my brakes are spongy, I said they are NOT spongy. They are merely unresponsive.
I'm comparing the GPZ to a 125 sports bike here which has somewhat sharper braking.
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