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 Posted: 20:32 - 26 Apr 2006 Post subject: BBC's blatant lies about BNP |
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If any of you watched north west tonight this evening, you may have caught an article on a BNP candidate, who was derided for standing in a ward near where anthony walker was murdered.
This was deemed "offensive", and "disgusting" by conservative and Labour MPs. The true disgust is that these two MPs are jumping on a bandwagon, which exists due to a young mans death, to slag off the BNP. Politicians once again display their compassion and sense of decency...
But how is it remotely offensive that a political party which voices its opinions on immigration, and the problems caused by lack of control from the government, has a candidate standing in that ward? Many people regard the BNP as a racist party, which might i add is comical, even if it is understandable considering the media slanging, and inaccurate reporting of events of some past members.
The bits about the article which really pissed me off were the claims of Anthony Walker's family. They claim that "statistics show that when the BNP field a candidate in an election, racial attacks in the area increase". I would like to see these figures, as i'm sure Mr and Mrs walker have produced them from a bodily orriface primarily used for the act of defacation.
Not only that, but further censorship and discrimination against the BNP has come from the candidates local newspapers. The liverpool echo flat refuse to print any letters submitted by the BNP, which i feel is an unfair and biased act intended solely to allow discrimination and aid derision of the party. It would be interesting to see how the Liverpool Echo is financed, and which (if any) political parties are associated with the paper. Free speech is supposed to give anyone a free hearing.
How on earth can a political party be honestly elected if they are not allowed their fair say. I'm not interested if you think the BNP are racist or whatever, but the basic fact is that a political party is being refused it's right of speech, and being lied about in the national press.
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not knowing to much about the background of the bnp I tried looking it up and this was top of the pile.
https://www.dailysnack.co.uk/celebrity_news_article_pa.html?sku=114606198020985666-E0
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| Mister James wrote: | | Jack_Cheese wrote: | The BNP are not fundamentally racist in the policies etc, but i do understand concerns of them being the next nazi regime. There is an undercurrent of racism though, held by some members. If people looked past this racism, and more of those who support the policies whilst still holding their ground on immigration etc, the party would have soaring numbers of votes.
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I'm afraid I think that's back to front.
It's more a case of them being fundamentally racist, with an undercurrent of common sense. |
Let me guess, that's influenced by what you read, or what you saw on TV. I suggest you read the post at the top of this page, and learn that the evidence on which you based the above statement was probably twisted and manipulated, untill it was a very detatched version of the truth.
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| G wrote: | | Jack_Cheese wrote: |
Let me guess, that's influenced by what you read, or what you saw on TV. |
Where do you get your information from? |
I know members, and to be honest, i'm always very skeptical of what they say, and as with all political parties, i don't believe 99% of it. If i did, then i'd be no more well informed than if i believed everything i read and saw. I've glanced through a few policies too, allbeit a while back.
While i don't write them off as nazis, Nick Griffin's comment of "UKIP are so racist it makes my hair curl." was laced with so much irony (given the reputation of the BNP, and the racism of some members), i nearly coughed my spleen up with laughter.
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So, because Nick Griffin is smarter than the average mong, and is capable of understanding irony, we should all vote BNP? Give us a bit of the credit you happily extend yourself, and assume that we are all capable of assessing media bias and forming our own opinions.
I consider myself pretty right of centre - most people tend to find my views on Immigration and Race to be pretty extreme, yet I find the BNP to be disgusting. Even worse, I find their policies - as voiced by them to be racist, unpleasant, unworkable, and downright thick.
The last time I read their website I was on the verge of pouring bleach into my eye sockets to erase the taint of the stupidity and ignorance pouring out of my monitor.
I can just about understand people indulging in a bit of tactical voting to put the willies up the Big 3, but genuinely indulging a loose alliance of racists and morons is hardly the act of a patriotic and politically savvy Briton. ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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Taken from the BNP website:
| Quote: | Within Five Years of us taking power we will DEPORT the following from Britain;
A) We will deport all 1 million illegal immigrants hiding in Britain.
B) We will deport the estimated 500,000 -1 million bogus asylum seekers and those hiding in the country who should have been removed after failing to claim asylum and we will deport all those who have been given asylum but who are criminals and national security risks.
C) We will prevent another 2 million asylum seekers and economic migrants from entering the country (as estimated by the Government) within those five years of us taking power.
D) We will deport the 1million plus of religious extremists, supporters of terrorism, those sponsors of terrorism, preachers of terrorism, we will revoke the citizenship status of all those naturalised immigrants convicted of criminal offences in the past in this country and who have also been involved in criminality in their home countries before they arrived here and were granted citizenship status, we will revoke the citizenship status of all economic migrants whose initial reason for entering the country has ended, we will deport all undesirable aliens involved with extremism and criminality and also all those who work against the interests of the British State.
That is our promise to the British people, that within FIVE YEARS of the election of a BNP government we will deport at least FIVE MILLION illegal immigrants and other undesirable aliens from Britain. |
Given that the stated aim of the BNP is to represent a specific group.
From the BNP website:
| Quote: | The BNP is an ethno-specific political party that represents the interests of specific ethnic and cultural groups that comprise sections of the indigenous White community of Great Britain. |
Consequently anyone who is not a member of the 'white indigenous community' would be, in the eyes of the BNP 'those who work against the interests of the British State' - i.e. acting against the indigenous white community. If this is not racism then I'm a monkey's Uncle and the more the Trades Unions, Labour, Tory & LibDems do to stop the spread of their message then the better. ____________________ Using a mobile phone while driving a car should be made a capital offence! |
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then again we have facists in government anyway remember the Walterwolfgang event.
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| headlamp wrote: | Taken from the BNP website:
| Quote: | Within Five Years of us taking power we will DEPORT the following from Britain;
A) We will deport all 1 million illegal immigrants hiding in Britain.
B) We will deport the estimated 500,000 -1 million bogus asylum seekers and those hiding in the country who should have been removed after failing to claim asylum and we will deport all those who have been given asylum but who are criminals and national security risks.
C) We will prevent another 2 million asylum seekers and economic migrants from entering the country (as estimated by the Government) within those five years of us taking power.
D) We will deport the 1million plus of religious extremists, supporters of terrorism, those sponsors of terrorism, preachers of terrorism, we will revoke the citizenship status of all those naturalised immigrants convicted of criminal offences in the past in this country and who have also been involved in criminality in their home countries before they arrived here and were granted citizenship status, we will revoke the citizenship status of all economic migrants whose initial reason for entering the country has ended, we will deport all undesirable aliens involved with extremism and criminality and also all those who work against the interests of the British State.
That is our promise to the British people, that within FIVE YEARS of the election of a BNP government we will deport at least FIVE MILLION illegal immigrants and other undesirable aliens from Britain. |
Given that the stated aim of the BNP is to represent a specific group.
From the BNP website:
| Quote: | The BNP is an ethno-specific political party that represents the interests of specific ethnic and cultural groups that comprise sections of the indigenous White community of Great Britain. |
Consequently anyone who is not a member of the 'white indigenous community' would be, in the eyes of the BNP 'those who work against the interests of the British State' - i.e. acting against the indigenous white community. If this is not racism then I'm a monkey's Uncle and the more the Trades Unions, Labour, Tory & LibDems do to stop the spread of their message then the better. |
I wish the main political parties would take on A, B and D. Illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers are just that - illegal and bogus. There is no place for them here and (I believe in common with with most people, including genuine immigrants) I do not want to pay for their long term support.
Of course, I believe that genuine asylum seekers should be granted asylum and skilled economic migrants should also be encouraged though entry would have to be regulated - perhaps in a similar way to Australia. ____________________ Current bike: Kawasaki Z750S |
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"Within Five Years of us taking power we will DEPORT the following from Britain;
A) We will deport all 1 million illegal immigrants hiding in Britain.
B) We will deport the estimated 500,000 -1 million bogus asylum seekers and those hiding in the country who should have been removed after failing to claim asylum and we will deport all those who have been given asylum but who are criminals and national security risks.
D) We will deport the 1million plus of religious extremists, supporters of terrorism, those sponsors of terrorism, preachers of terrorism, we will revoke the citizenship status of all those naturalised immigrants convicted of criminal offences in the past in this country and who have also been involved in criminality in their home countries before they arrived here and were granted citizenship status, "
Not much wrong with those ideas really and maybe other partys should look at that and maybe get some idea of what is happening to this country. ____________________ "Its Better To Burn Out Than Fade Away!!!!!!" "Lifes a bitch and then you Die"
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I have a problem with people who support a parliamentary democracy, and then cry fowl, as soon as a political party whose extreme views they don't agree with hoves into view.
Rather than make a lot noise about the BNP, those slackers should get of their arses and vote for someone else, or leaflet, or campaign, or SHUT UP.
It seems stupid to me, to bang on about democracy, and then whinge as soon as someone comes along to stand for election that you don't like.
The BNP seem to mostly stand in locacl elections, so on a local level, it's not that hard to do something about it if you don't agree.
Getting off your fat arse, and waddling down to the polling station, would seem to be the easiest option.... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 176 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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