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trevoriv
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Leathers... Reply with quote

Looking to buy my first set of 1 peice leathers on friday just looking for general advice.

Ive been told various things but im gonna be looking at leathers that are nice and tight when i try em so that they wont be massively baggy when they have given a little after a few rides.

The other thing is that im 6'4" and about 13 stone (ie tall and thin) - ive been told that alpinestar leathers may accommodate my frame better than some other brands as im finding stuff ive bought so far a little too short on the sleeves/legs Sad

Other than that im thinking maybe made to measure lethers may be the best bet as i have a fair bit to spend.

Can anyone recommend good stores to check out in the lancashire / yorkshire area?

And as a side note can anyone recommend some good non flick chain lube? Ive been using Wurth dry chain lube for 6 months now but everytime my bike is in the garage they rollock me for not looking after my chain, dunno whether they just dont realise that its dry or whether it is actually crap.

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PostPosted: 19:53 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made to measure will be far higher quality and a better fit than off the peg, and are often cheaper too! I can't understand why people spend over a grand on off the peg leathers when Crowtree will make you a far better set for hundreds less, that fit you properly?
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put a deposit on some new Frank Thomas leathers. £150 for top and bottom. Thumbs Up They fit well as well. Seems a good deal to me, or is Frank Thomas a cheap make or summin?
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid Alpinestars like the fucking plague mate!

I have a set of Vectors for £699 and the seam burst when I had a 30mph crash last week. I should have taken the reviews i read seriously cos they scored very low in Rides grouptest last year and we're noted for their seems bursting.

A MCN writer had a bigger crash and the seams burst on him, he rated then very highly as he said he didn't get hurt and thats all what counted.

They do look nice tho. Very Happy

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Was in Hein Gerike in Leeds last week and they stock Alpinestars and Arlen Ness and quite a few others.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should be tight. Standing upright they should be digging in at your crotch, sat on the bike they will be fine.

Take with you all your riding gear and preferably go on your bike so you can sit on it in them.

If your thinking of a back proector, get it before you buy your leathers to make sure they fit over it.

I'd definately consider made to measure suits if you've got the cash.

Fit is Everything.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

frogmella wrote:
Avoid Alpinestars like the fucking plague mate!

I have a set of Vectors for £699 and the seam burst when I had a 30mph crash last week.


Have you contacted then about that? For that much money I'd expect a lot more.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
frogmella wrote:
Avoid Alpinestars like the fucking plague mate!

I have a set of Vectors for £699 and the seam burst when I had a 30mph crash last week.


Have you contacted then about that? For that much money I'd expect a lot more.


A few people have said that. And I'm not happy, but if I took them back as soon as I mention 'crash' i'd expect them to tell me where to go.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

frogmella wrote:
as soon as I mention 'crash' i'd expect them to tell me where to go.


Tell them you were taking a piss on a motorway embankment and you slipped and fell on your arse all the way down it.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - but surely there are meant to withstand more than one crash? This isn't a helmet were talking about. The stiches went. Poor craftmanship, surely?
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

frogmella wrote:
A few people have said that. And I'm not happy, but if I took them back as soon as I mention 'crash' i'd expect them to tell me where to go.


They should hold up in a crash anyway. Its not unreasonable to expect them to survive a 30mph slide. Because of the nature of them though they've probably covered their asses with fine print anyway...In these cases its sometimes best to make as much of a ruckus as possible and they might just budge or come to some kind of compromise. Is their any way you can claim off your insurance? Some policies have property damage written into them.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're quite repairable, the seams went in two places. I was riding pillion so wouldn't be covered by my insurance. The lad who was riding is only 3rd party but offered to pay for the repairs. Didn't really want to take him up on it tho.

Anyway, don't want to derail the thread. The moral of the story is some 120quid leathers of a market stall are better than Alpinestars!
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

frogmella wrote:
I was riding pillion so wouldn't be covered by my insurance.


House insurance?
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a passenger you're covered under the drivers insurance as a third party.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a friend whos very very tall he wears Alpine stars, here is a picture of him on another friends CBR400, they are the only leathers he can get off the peg to fit him Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
As a passenger you're covered under the drivers insurance as a third party.


If they have cover for a pillion that is. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
got a friend whos very very tall he wears Alpine stars, here is a picture of him on another friends CBR400, they are the only leathers he can get off the peg to fit him Thumbs Up


Sorry for the offtopicness, but cbr400's are fekin tiny! Shocked or is he like a 9 footer Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's 6ft 11 could be taller, he is truly huge,

I'm 5ft 4 and feel like a midget next to him, ho often rests his elbow on my head Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
got a friend whos very very tall he wears Alpine stars, here is a picture of him on another friends CBR400, they are the only leathers he can get off the peg to fit him Thumbs Up


HES FUCKING MASSIVE!!

I got a pair off Spike leather trousers that are really really comfy, They cost me £195 from that shop on HangerLane roundabout, Really nice, I just need the top half now but I got no money Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpius wrote:

They should hold up in a crash anyway. Its not unreasonable to expect them to survive a 30mph slide.


I quite agree.
One crash happy racer I know reckons to get three seasons out of a set of crowtrees, and that's falling off at speed several times a year.
If you're looking to spend £700 - £800 on a set of leathers, go to Crowtree and get a decent made to measure set. You'll need to wait a little while for them, but it'll definately be worth it.
There are other made to measure suppliers such as BKS, again very good quality but a little more money.
Have a look round a club race paddock and see what the racers wear, Crowtree, BKS and Hideout come up again and again and again. Many of them are well scuffed, but the protection isn't compromised.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 04 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think im gonna pop up to lancaster to frank shepherd to see what they have got on offer, they also do custom suits via Scott leathers.

Then its probably off to leeds to see what j and s have and then i think there is a heine gericke accross the road as well Smile

looks like the weather is gonna be ace for my run as well Smile
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 07 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ended up gettin these from j and s in leeds, a little short on the leg but easily covered by my boots so im a happy chappy - ended up practically doing coast to coast and back in one very nice afternoon Smile

after about 300 miles in the leathers ive got no complaints other than my sidi boots dont match em and my arse keeps slipping all over my seat now :/
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 07 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
I think he's 6ft 11 could be taller, he is truly huge,

I'm 5ft 4 and feel like a midget next to him, ho often rests his elbow on my head Sad Laughing


Really, I thought the rules of inverse proportionality applied in all cases Razz
Must make an interesting case study, not that I am trying to imply you are lying Mr. Green
PS make sure you always lead, never follow people as tall as that, you will catch all the exhaust fumes Sick
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 07 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £50 for some 2nd hand rst leathers off wave2k, had a 130mph crash in them and they didn't wear all the way through, top leathers.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 07 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

frogmella wrote:
if I took them back as soon as I mention 'crash' i'd expect them to tell me where to go.

You're wearing leathers to be safer in case of a crash. If you expect them to tell you to go away if they don't work, it's time to change company Shocked!
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