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martin27e
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: restricted bike Reply with quote

my brother would like to know if he gets his bike restricted would the insurris company know its been restricted or do u just restricted the bike. to be fine with the law . baicy hes asking if he gets a 600cc bike
will it change the cost of the inscureis or not he will be takking the a2 licences test if he ride with out the bike restricted would anynoe know
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may ask you for a restriction certificate but thats pretty rare afaik.

All you need to do is get it restricted, doesnt make insurance cheaper, it just has to be. (Untill they fall out Wink )
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

morning,

his insurance will be the same restricted as it would be for a full power bike.

some insurance companys ask to see proof of restriction and some dont.

choice qoute for instance didnt ask to see my restriction certificate.

regards the police finding out about it not being restricted i have heard of a couple of bikes being stripped down and checked for restriction in the event of a crash.

although there are hundreds of people riding around blissfully ignorant of the a2 restriction law and have not been caught.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony532 wrote:

although there are hundreds of people riding around blissfully ignorant of the a2 restriction law and have not been caught.

and there are those few which have been caught and received points.
It's their license to riskhow they want, I need mine clean as it is so the washers will stay in for another 9 months.


My bike is 33bhp, my insurance company know it is, well they trust it is, they never asked for proof, I'm with A quote who were alot cheaper than anyothers I got quotes off.
Some do ask for the certificate to prove it's 33bhp or a dyno print out.


He and whoever he's told will know, also if he gets clocked at (for example) 115mph on a ''33bhp'' gpz 500s the police would know he isn't 33bhp like he should be as the bike would not be capable of this speed if it was 33bhp.
He would do well not to draw attention to him self if he chose to flaunt the 33bhp law,

my insurance is the same at 33bhp as it would be at full power (50bhp ish)

I know this isn't what you're asking but:-
what bike is he thinking of getting as some don't cope too well with being 33bhp, some can be quite dangerous with an 'all or nothing' type throttle response particularily at roundabouts Shocked
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:

He and whoever he's told will know, also if he gets clocked at (for example) 115mph on a ''33bhp'' gpz 500s the police would know he isn't 33bhp like he should be as the bike would not be capable of this speed if it was 33bhp.


A moot point really, as at 115mph it would most likely be a ban.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed it would be the elast of his worries, but it is to illustrate my point that a 33bhp bike will not have the same kind of speeds as a full power 600cc, its all very well getting caught speeding, but you don't want added to that an investigation into if your bike is 33bhp to find it's not.

we all know how theyl ike to make an example of bikers and throw the book at us.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a chat with a couple of cops that came in to a dealership a few weeks ago, one of them was putting down a deposit on a K6 GSXR 600 whilst on duty Shocked Sad

Anyway, they said they cant really do anything about 33bhp without carrying around a dyno with them in there car..

They were trying to guess which one of our bikes where restricted. They didnt belive mine was Razz Wink

He also said next time he stops me hell give me his old light cover Razz

(There was about 4 of us and we had all seem them police for one reason or another Laughing )
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread got me thinking, so I have just googled and finally found out what the penalty for riding an unrestricted bike during your restricted period is.

No Jail.
Fine of max £1000.
Ban discretionary.
Points 3-6.

Interesting........ Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

friend got 3 points and £60 fine, copper said rest of his bike was legal so they were lenient with him,

Now he's a good boy and has put the washers back in
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hes not in to speeding the most hes done is 75mph he wont go over 80 at all
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why people worry about them.

Just rip them out and live alittle jeez, I can't see how they can justify the washers costing £200 for a start. And then they make the bike run like cack.

Lifes too short for all these bullcrap restrictions.

So me with 4 years road experience and different bikes does not qualify me to have a bike over 33bhp as I done my test when I was 19.
But if your 21 and do your test with no experience, you can jump straight onto a full powered BUSA without a hitch! crazzzy

Meh to this law.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you wanted to be extra causiuos you could do what i did, get it restricted and then that night they fell out in my garage. This means i have a certificate so willhopefully be enough without the police striping it down if i gte caught, anyway only 11 months before its legal now and havnt had any probs so far, btw carol nash didnt ask for any proof whatsoever. Thumbs Up
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Simple
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

CoronaBoner wrote:
I don't see why people worry about them.

Just rip them out and live alittle jeez, I can't see how they can justify the washers costing £200 for a start. And then they make the bike run like cack.

Lifes too short for all these bullcrap restrictions.

So me with 4 years road experience and different bikes does not qualify me to have a bike over 33bhp as I done my test when I was 19.
But if your 21 and do your test with no experience, you can jump straight onto a full powered BUSA without a hitch! crazzzy

Meh to this law.



I agree, but I really can't afford the penalty if caught.
I've been riding motorcycles for 12years now but because I'm 19 (just) I'm not allowed to unleash the true power of the almighty Geeperz, it's still enough power to play with the big boys and beat them, it's not all about straight line speed or how much power you put down out of a corner,

plus the 33bhp thing is making my chain last forever Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GSX750F is restricted, acceleration is wicked (well faster than my previous) and the top speed is limited to about 90ish.
restriction runs out Oct 07 (blast and dam).
I believe that a copy of the restriction goes to DVLA, and the installers keep a copy as well as the suppliers of the restriction kit.

Better be safe than sorry I suppose

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Just rip them out and live alittle jeez, I can't see how they can justify the washers costing £200 for a start. And then they make the bike run like cack.

Lifes too short for all these bullcrap restrictions.


Might as well shove crack up me nose then if life is so short.

What id your involved in a spill and police investigations find bike is de-restricted, fat chance of insurance payout as well as points on liscence etc.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point simple..

Think you said your's pushes out 50odd bhp max so I can see why you have left them in as you are happy as it is, plus you save on the consumables etc.
I agree that its not about top speed and all that but you can't enjoy a modern day sportbike pushing out well over the 100bhp mark with a restrictor kit in, they are just not made for it.
Damn, just thinking how much I could have saved on petrol/pads and chains if they were in....... meh the fun beats all that Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't insure a sports bike,

besides its so much more rewarding running rings around people who cant ride their latest race rep all that well, it was great on a 125 with L plates, it's even better when they come and casually say:

them -'' that thing goes alright doesn't it?''

moi -''yeah - s'pose it does for a 33bhp twin'' Laughing

I'll wait until my 33bhp is up (9months ) befor eI treat myself to something I haven't decided upon yet zx6r/r6/ honda 400 of sorts/sv650 mayb/DR400

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

king kong wrote:
My GSX750F is restricted, acceleration is wicked (well faster than my previous) and the top speed is limited to about 90ish.
restriction runs out Oct 07 (blast and dam).
I believe that a copy of the restriction goes to DVLA, and the installers keep a copy as well as the suppliers of the restriction kit.

Better be safe than sorry I suppose

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Just rip them out and live alittle jeez, I can't see how they can justify the washers costing £200 for a start. And then they make the bike run like cack.

Lifes too short for all these bullcrap restrictions.


Might as well shove crack up me nose then if life is so short.

What id your involved in a spill and police investigations find bike is de-restricted, fat chance of insurance payout as well as points on liscence etc.


What if, what if, what if....

If you want to live like that then fine, at the end of the day its not like your committing a murder. Of course there's a chance of a spill, read a fair few threads like this and not many bikes get sussed in this instance.

oh, and drugs are baaad mmmmmmkay
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
I can't insure a sports bike,

besides its so much more rewarding running rings around people who cant ride their latest race rep all that well, it was great on a 125 with L plates, it's even better when they come and casually say:

them -'' that thing goes alright doesn't it?''

moi -''yeah - s'pose it does for a 33bhp twin'' Laughing

I'll wait until my 33bhp is up (9months ) befor eI treat myself to something I haven't decided upon yet zx6r/r6/ honda 400 of sorts/sv650 mayb/DR400

simple


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Don't ride with simple. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 08 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

CoronaBoner wrote:


<Note to self>

Don't ride with simple. Laughing

good call, I wouldn't ride with me either
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 09 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

king kong wrote:
My GSX750F is restricted, acceleration is wicked


erm, what?
even de- restricted, a teapot wont be fast
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 09 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bought a Yamaha fazer 600 which is being delivered this weekend hopefully. Thumbs Up

I'm only 18, so if the bike is restricted that's fine with me, however if it isn't then i'm not paying out even more cash to cut the balls of the bike.

It's a risk i guess i'll take like many other young riders but if the goverment wants to restrict the bike then it can pay out for it as i certainly wont be doing so.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 09 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my R6 last week & i'm 19, i have no intention of getting it restricted. Like above, it's a risk i'll take.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 09 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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king kong wrote:
My GSX750F is restricted, acceleration is wicked


erm, what?
even de- restricted, a teapot wont be fast


Don't believe the crap you read in the mags, plus the fact I mentioned acceleration you tool.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 09 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:22 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsilva wrote:
king kong wrote:
My GSX750F is restricted, acceleration is wicked


erm, what?
even de- restricted, a teapot wont be fast


It'll piss over your little CBR in a straight line and have a higher top speed. You realise it's a detuned 88/89 GSXR short stroke motor don't you?
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