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PostPosted: 19:51 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Do i need to do a theory test? Reply with quote

Hi there!

Im currently only on a CBT which expires soon. Due to lack of funds, i cant go for the A2 test just yet, so my dad has offered to pay the £50 or whatever it is for the A1 test.

Do i need to complete a theory exam for the A1 test though? My dad doesnt think i do (Despite having a full bike licence himself Rolling Eyes ) but i think i do need to do a theory. Can anyone help?

As i have a full drving licence, my dad said the theory i took for that can be used for the A1 test, but it cant, can it?

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PostPosted: 19:53 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't use your theory test from your driving license for you bike test Confused
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a full driving licence for some time, but I still had to re-do my theory test before my DAS last year
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses, but they havent answered my question exactly Wink

Heres my simple yes or no question: Do i need to take a motorcycle theory exam to do the A1 test?

Yes or no Razz

Im thinking yes, but not 100% sure

(I know i could just ring up the test center, but its closed atm)
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes mate you do !
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any advantage to taking the A1 test over the A2 test? Is the A1 test easier or some thing?
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 10 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO NOT DO THE A1 TEST.

There is Zero point.

You pass you can ride a 125 up to 15bhp. (without Ls and on motorways and with pillion)

The license will never get upgraded to full power or 33bhp.

You are waisting your money.

Only book A2 or DAS.

No one should do A1.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Your car theory test doesn't count.

And don't do the A1 test, do the standard A (A2) which is exactly the same price.

Unless you happen to own a wierd bike between 75cc and 120cc (or a 125cc that can't manage 60mph) and the reason for doing it is to avoid hiring a bike.

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At age 17 or over, you will have two types of full motorcycle licence to aim for - the A1 light motorcycle licence or the standard category A motorcycle licence.

To gain a full A1 light motorcycle licence you must successfully complete CBT and pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a vehicle between 75cc and 125cc. A full A1 licence permits you to ride any motorcycle up to 125cc and a power output of up to 11kW (14.6 bhp) without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways.

To gain a full standard category A licence you must successfully complete CBT and pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a motorcycle of over 120cc but not larger than 125cc and capable of at least 100kph. In practice the normal test vehicle will be a 125cc machine. A full standard category A licence permits you ride any motorcycle with a power output of up to 25kW (33bhp) and a power-to-weight ratio not exceeding 0.16kW/kg without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways. You are restricted to a motorcycle up to 25kW for two years (not counting any periods of disqualification). After two years you may ride any size motorcycle.

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PostPosted: 00:53 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil you'll need to do the theory for the bike

car theory for cars
bike theory for bikes


look here
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

keyser soze wrote:
neil you'll need to do the theory for the bike

car theory for cars
bike theory for bikes


look here


Who are you and how do you know my name! Shocked Lol (I can tell from your style of writing/hotlinking, its 'tinyrhin0' Wink )

Anyways yes, as i said before, i dont have the money for an A2 exam/rental of a geared bike.

I only own a 100cc scooter...and thats it. So theres no point saying, do your A2, as I CANT AFFORD IT.

Anyway, cheers to those who answerd the simple question Wink
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

haGGard wrote:
keyser soze wrote:
neil you'll need to do the theory for the bike

car theory for cars
bike theory for bikes


look here


Who are you and how do you know my name! Shocked Lol (I can tell from your style of writing/hotlinking, its 'tinyrhin0' Wink )

Anyways yes, as i said before, i dont have the money for an A2 exam/rental of a geared bike.

I only own a 100cc scooter...and thats it. So theres no point saying, do your A2, as I CANT AFFORD IT.

Anyway, cheers to those who answerd the simple question Wink


Its EXACTLY THE SAME BUT THE A1 IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE A2.

If you pass on a 100cc speedfight you'll be riding peds and maxi scooters all your life anyway.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRX Steve wrote:
Is there any advantage to taking the A1 test over the A2 test? Is the A1 test easier or some thing?


I was wondering that. My guess would be that the A1 would inherently easier due to the fact that you wouldn't have to do it on a 46bhp bike.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob84 wrote:
MRX Steve wrote:
Is there any advantage to taking the A1 test over the A2 test? Is the A1 test easier or some thing?


I was wondering that. My guess would be that the A1 would inherently easier due to the fact that you wouldn't have to do it on a 46bhp bike.


You do your A2 on a CG125 or similar. I'm pretty sure mine wasn't 46bhp.

I'd either do your A2 properly or retake your CBT. I retook my CBT and rode for another year before taking my proper bike test. The cost isn't that much different, and OK you'd get rid of the Ls but you'd have to go through the stress of another test anyway if you ever want a bigger bike. With the CBT you can just ride normally without worrying that you'll fail and have to pay another £50 to retake.

Edit: Oh and you won't need to do your theory test yet.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neeeeil don't do it Shocked

As others have said, the 33bhp one costs the same, and you can rent a CG125 for the day for £45
{https://www.abouttownbikehire.co.uk/bike_honda_cg125.htm)

If you cant afford it, wait till your next payday - theres really little point in doing the A1 test Laughing

And yes, you do need to do a bike theory Wink
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Laughing

Ok here was my reasons... Wink

1) A2 would cost me £400+ as i would need lessons, theory cost, rental of bike, and test cost

2) A1 would of been MUCH cheaper as i wouldnt need lessons, just a single test, no rental of bike, but yes i would need to pay for a theory... I wasnt going to do A1 and leave it as that, it was only just really to extend my cbt, as i didnt wanna pay another £90 for another 2 years...

But now i might just pay for another CBT...

What gets me is if i do my CBT on an auto, i can ride either auto's or manuals (up to 125cc) after i finish, but if i did the A1 on an auto, thats all i can ride...
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) A2 would cost me £400+ as i would need lessons, theory cost, rental of bike, and test cost


For an A2? Wtf? You'd need that all for an A1 in that case.

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2) A1 would of been MUCH cheaper as i wouldnt need lessons, just a single test, no rental of bike, but yes i would need to pay for a theory... I wasnt going to do A1 and leave it as that, it was only just really to extend my cbt, as i didnt wanna pay another £90 for another 2 years...


It would be exactly the same price as an A2, they're exactly the same apart from the qualification you get at the end

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But now i might just pay for another CBT...


Reconsider A2, it shouldn't cost you £400.

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What gets me is if i do my CBT on an auto, i can ride either auto's or manuals (up to 125cc) after i finish, but if i did the A1 on an auto, thats all i can ride...


Aye, but they're thinking of bringing in legislation to say if you pass CBT on an auto, then you can only ride an auto (There's space on the CBT cert for this)

Don't know if they're still planning that though.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i said A1 will be cheaper, i meant cheaper for me personally as i wouldn't really need to pay for lessons as ive been riding for 2 years. Wouldnt need to rent a bike either etc...

But yea i might just do the CBT again...

Do you think if i did the CBT again, they would have me going around cones for half a day again? Or would they take me straight out on the road? I cant be arsed with all the going around cones crap again, just want to get it over and done with asap...
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

haGGard wrote:
When i said A1 will be cheaper, i meant cheaper for me personally as i wouldn't really need to pay for lessons as ive been riding for 2 years. Wouldnt need to rent a bike either etc...

But yea i might just do the CBT again...

Do you think if i did the CBT again, they would have me going around cones for half a day again? Or would they take me straight out on the road? I cant be arsed with all the going around cones crap again, just want to get it over and done with asap...


Haggard mate,

If you don't need lessons for an A1, you won't need it for an A2.

THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME TEST, WITH THE SAME CRITERIA, AND THE SAME BIKE REQUIREMENTS, THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERS IS YOUR ENTITLEMENT TO RIDE IF YOU PASS

A1: 15BHP 125cc and no more
A2: 33BHP xxxcc for a two year period, then unrestrictred
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dot_Comm wrote:


You do your A2 on a CG125 or similar. I'm pretty sure mine wasn't 46bhp.



That's correct, I was refering to DAS.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have you going round cones again. Suck it in and do it, it's only one day.

I'd definitely reccommend lessons before you take any sort of test. You may be able to ride, but do you know how to pass the test? An instructor will give you tips on what the examiner's looking for, where he wants you positioned, where he'll take you. You'll be able to go and practice your U-turn where you'll do it on the test etc etc.

Rob: The way you worded it sounded like you referred to taking your A2 on a 46bhp bike, since the question you quoted was discussing the differences between A1 and A2.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:


If you don't need lessons for an A1, you won't need it for an A2.

THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME TEST, WITH THE SAME CRITERIA, AND THE SAME BIKE REQUIREMENTS, THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERS IS YOUR ENTITLEMENT TO RIDE IF YOU PASS


You see, i would need lessons for an A2, as i've never riden a manual bike before, let alone a 125cc bike Wink
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

haGGard wrote:
Toby R wrote:


If you don't need lessons for an A1, you won't need it for an A2.

THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME TEST, WITH THE SAME CRITERIA, AND THE SAME BIKE REQUIREMENTS, THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERS IS YOUR ENTITLEMENT TO RIDE IF YOU PASS


You see, i would need lessons for an A2, as i've never riden a manual bike before, let alone a 125cc bike Wink


You'd have to ride a manual 125 if you wanted to ride a manual 125 with a pass on an A1...
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, but i dont have a 125 manual and dont have money to hire one either Wink

But anyway, thats not the point anymore, as im just gonna retake my cbt Thumbs Up Laughing Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 11 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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