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PostPosted: 14:17 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Track bike on the road : Legal? Reply with quote

Is it legal to ride a trackbike on the road?

The bike would be showing a number plate and have a horn but no lights or indicators and will be insured.

Is this legal?
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Re: Track bike on the road : Legal? Reply with quote

I would stick a rear light on. There's arguments over whether on it is required for legality, but it's worth doing anyway so that you don't get a truck stuck up your arse.

The rest is a rather grey area, but basically, yes.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need to be able to tell what speed your doing also
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did a search on https://www.motuk.com.

They say "If the bike was manufactured with indicators you will fail the test."

As for lights, I really hope you only mean headlight?

You will need a brake lights and reflector to be legal in that department.

Not sure on headlights.

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

LH-ER5 wrote:
Just did a search on https://www.motuk.com.

They say "If the bike was manufactured with indicators you will fail the test."


I'm not worried about passing the MOT tbh as the bike can be returned to normal for that. I'm just wondering what offences I could be comitting by not having lights etc?
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would need a daytime MOT to make it legal.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
It would need a daytime MOT to make it legal.


Was just about to type that Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if the bike already has a full MOT and you just whack the track fairings on?
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
LH-ER5 wrote:
Just did a search on https://www.motuk.com.

They say "If the bike was manufactured with indicators you will fail the test."


I'm not worried about passing the MOT tbh as the bike can be returned to normal for that. I'm just wondering what offences I could be comitting by not having lights etc?


Remember, your bike has to be in the condition that it passed the MOT, every single time you take it on the road.
Saying that, you do see old vespa's chugging around with no indys.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

LH-ER5 wrote:
Just did a search on https://www.motuk.com.

They say "If the bike was manufactured with indicators you will fail the test."

As for lights, I really hope you only mean headlight?

You will need a brake lights and reflector to be legal in that department.

MOT place I last used I checked up on it and they said you need a horn, don't care about lights, not even a brake light.

Whether the 'day time MOT' even exists is a very grey area. The last one I got didn't mention 'day time.

I would just ride it, Joe Smile.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a ZX7R around with no lights, indicators, mirrors or speedo. It did have a horn though. It got through a daytime MOT ok too.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would need to TAX it too remember. Sad Depends how many track days you do a year..Might work out cheaper to buy a trailer.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, i had tax too Exclamation
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
[I would just ride it, Joe Smile.


I will probably do just that. My bike is in track form after Snetterton and TBH I'm finding it hard to motivate myself to return it to road form if I'm going to be doing another trackday soon. I don't use the bike for everyday transport and 95% of my riding is done in the daytime on a Sunday. I can't really see the point of sticking the expensive road fairings back on just for going out for a few hours on a sunny Sunday and then swapping them back for a trackday. I might as well leave the cheapo tracksuit on even for Sunday blasts. A brake light would be a good idea but I'll risk it, although I will put the mirrors on as well.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
A brake light would be a good idea but I'll risk it, although I will put the mirrors on as well.

If you get hit up the arse they could quite conceivable claim off you.

If you noral light won't fit, I'd look at a cheap unit from Busters to stick in your track fairings.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Joe wrote:
A brake light would be a good idea but I'll risk it, although I will put the mirrors on as well.

If you get hit up the arse they could quite conceivable claim off you.

If you noral light won't fit, I'd look at a cheap unit from Busters to stick in your track fairings.


Really I should stop being a lazy git and stick the road ones back on Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep! I can't be arsed to do mine either Smile
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: . Reply with quote

ignore this post, it was irrelevant. Embarassed

my question was already answered in the thread
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You definitely want a brake light.

People expect to see it on the road and I think you're asking for trouble being without one. How do you usually notice a car has non-working brake lights? You almost stove yourself through their rear windscreen, especially if they've pulled up hard. Laughing

Don't credit other road users with the ability to look at the big picture and see you're slowing down, they're only gonna be looking at your wee red light until they've realised they're gaining on you rather more quickly than expected. Which might be a bit late.

Also what G says about insurance... I got hit up the rear at traffic lights years ago, I was stationary and a woman bumped me at maybe 5mph or less. My bike was fine but she knackered her bumper and dented her bonnet. Even something that minor could get spun around to blame you if there's no brake light, and would cost a good few hundred to fix.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if you have fully kitted out track bike, to put it on the road what you need to add is:

rear brake light
number plate
insurance (obviously)
tax
day time mot
speedo
Question is there anything else
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending where and how much I was riding it, I'd be tempted by indicators.

Just because I get annoyed by other vehicles that don't indicate, it's another of those slightly subliminal things that other drivers notice. I had really hard to see flush mounts on my old cb, and I could kinda see drivers going 'where's she going' if I was sat waiting to turn right. Of course, I'm talking about hacking around central London every day, if I was just riding it for fun here and there it wouldn't be such a biggie.

It'd be very easy to create a plate/brake light/indicators all on one hanger that would be a doddle to take on and off, then at least you'd have some rears. How about the ones built into the mirrors for the front? Then they come off along with the mirrors for track use and get slapped back on for the road.

Guess I just don't see the sense in raising the odds on getting taken out for the sake of 10 mins plugging and screwing every trackday. Karma
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just been to my MOT testers to see about a daytime MOT for my ZX7R trackbike! All I need is a horn and a Speedo, however the speedo doesnt need to work!

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PostPosted: 16:26 - 17 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need a speedo but doesn't have to work thats abit irish Rolling Eyes

agree with bendy tho about having it all on 1 bracket only a 5min job then.

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