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Chiz
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: CBR 400 RR *update* Reply with quote

I searched but didn't quite find what i was looking for:

Just a few questions about the CBR400RR:

How reliable are they (i currently have an NSR which is bulletproof, my old TZR 50 (brand new) always had stuff wrong with it!)

Are parts going to be expensive because it is an import?

If i were going to look at one (which i might be), is there anything in particular i should be looking for?

Will it do long journeys without going kaput?! (planning on riding to South Wales in the summer, 160 miles)

Are 400's really as bad as everybody makes out?

Thanks,


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PostPosted: 21:07 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Re: CBR 400 RR Reply with quote

Chiz wrote:
I searched but didn't quite find what i was looking for:

Will it do long journeys without going kaput?! (planning on riding to South Wales in the summer, 160 miles)

Are 400's really as bad as everybody makes out?

Thanks,


Kate used to ride from Plymouth -> Gatwick on a weekly basis on a gull arm CBR400RR , didn't break down but had a crap tank range.

heck she went on a ride out with us which was 180 mile round trip and it was fine.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Re: CBR 400 RR Reply with quote

Chiz wrote:

Are 400's really as bad as everybody makes out?


No, not at all.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one, as for being reliable, hmm, mines developed an issue where it sometimes refuses to start, oddly only when I do a very short stint, it's looking like a dodgy kill switch, going to remove it and get it running without then see if the problem goes away.

Other than that I haven't had any major issues, tank range is about 200km's before reserve. As for parts I've not had to buy any brand new, always managed to get stuff from a breakers.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are as reliable as any other Honda. Find a good one, and treat it well, and it will look after you!
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Chiz
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If i were going to look at one (which i might be), is there anything in particular i should be looking for?


I'm going to look at one on Saturday. 18,000 miles, decent nick (few scratches), needs new choke cable and front tyre,

Anything i should be looking for especially, any weak points?

What kind of price, roughly?
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Re: CBR 400 RR Reply with quote

Chiz wrote:
is there anything in particular i should be looking for?


A zxr 400, i know of one for sale Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

great bikes,,, because i have one

iv ragged mine non stop for 7 month, not had any real problems with it,, tank range is about 200km to reserve,, wil sit on the motorway all day at 100mph without a hitch, although if its got a race can on it u mite find its a bit noisy as sits about 7k at 70mph,
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to look at one on Saturday. 18,000 miles, decent nick (few scratches), needs new choke cable and front tyre,

Anything i should be looking for especially, any weak points?

What kind of price, roughly?



is it a Gullarm (nc29) or tri arm (nc 23) or an older hurricane one?
Prices vary.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
I have one, as for being reliable, hmm, mines developed an issue where it sometimes refuses to start, oddly only when I do a very short stint, it's looking like a dodgy kill switch, going to remove it and get it running without then see if the problem goes away.


But remember you did leave yours sat outside un covered all winter, un used.

I've had one and no real problems as such yet, it spat a spark plud out, but i think this was due to the previous owner not putting them in tight enough, as i've replaced them all and not had a problem since.

It basically gets ridden like my old 50 did, redlined everywhere etc... Hasn't missed a beat.

I get 140km to reserve or 160 if i take it easy.

Parts are pretty cheap, and 400's arn't as bad as everyone makes out.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 18 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maintain it and it wont let you down. Just make sure theres evidence of it being looked after.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 19 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was looking at bikes, 400's seemed overpriced for the age and mileage compared to 600's, but some say they are worth the extra for the handling

i never tried one so i dont know about that, but if you can get a newer bike with less mileage for the same money, chances are its gonna be more reliable

having said that , im 30 so insurance wasnt an issue, but it could be if you are younger

a 600 wd be better for long journeys, but a 400 wd be fine as some people go across europe on them with no problems
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 19 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a gullarm (NC29), have owned it for about 6 months. Its done about 26k miles.

I use it everyday, always starts well etc, the only prob was the reg/rec burnt out (a common problem ive heard). Was bout 60 quid for a new one and has been fine since.

Parts are pretty cheap and theres plenty about on ebay etc.

I got a fair deal on mine but they are generally over priced due to the fact they are desirable as quite cheap insurance compared to 600s.

Pretty quick but total lack of torque and you really have to work the gears constantly to get the best out of it. Really fun to ride but crap around town tho.

I regulary do 150miles + and no probs but as already said does have a poor tank range.

Hope that helps
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 19 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skip the 4, get a 6, probably cost you the less in the long run as you're only gonna want a bigger bike anyways. Get it restricted if that's a requirement, then get used to it that way.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 19 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was pretty reliable, in fact the only unreliability I suffered from any of my 400s was standard rectifier related issues. The CBR should be fine for ton up cruising with no problems as long as it's reasonably serviced. Should last as well as, if not better than an NSR.

Parts are readily available from a number of sources, Elliots, Wemoto and David Silvers being the most popular.

The only problem I found with longer journeys was how buzzy and gutless the engine was, coupled with how small the bike is - okay for under 80 miles, but I needed a bit of a stretch after that - and I'm not exactly the tallest of riders.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just agreed a price, picking it up Monday:

18,000 miles
Excellent bodywork (odd scuff)
Art can + road legal baffle
NC23 Tri-arm (1988 i think)
black/gold colours
Needs new front tyre

£800, i think that is a bargain Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chiz wrote:


£800, i think that is a bargain Very Happy

I'd say it's a bout it's money seeing as it needs a tyre and does have the odd scuff.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zimma wrote:
Skip the 4, get a 6, probably cost you the less in the long run as you're only gonna want a bigger bike anyways. Get it restricted if that's a requirement, then get used to it that way.


Zimma is correct!

Get a 6, the 4 isnt worth the hassle of finding a good bike that is gonna be 10+ years old. A good condition ZX6R can be gotten for pennies nowadays!

Given the choice I would have coughed up the stupid insurance hike that I would have had on another CBR600RR rather than own this RVF.

Looks can be deceiving, and although I am deadly sure the guy who owned it previous looked after it no-end I have found it to be a dog. Thing is as they are old you cannot judge the quality of them by looks or service history really.

He had next to no problems with the bike, and I have had nothing but. I bought it as a mint bike, which had been reliable, now it has gone the other way.

Last bike I ever by that is more than 4 years old.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reevo8 wrote:
Zimma wrote:
Skip the 4, get a 6, probably cost you the less in the long run as you're only gonna want a bigger bike anyways. Get it restricted if that's a requirement, then get used to it that way.


Zimma is correct!

Get a 6, the 4 isnt worth the hassle of finding a good bike that is gonna be 10+ years old. A good condition ZX6R can be gotten for pennies nowadays!

Given the choice I would have coughed up the stupid insurance hike that I would have had on another CBR600RR rather than own this RVF.

Looks can be deceiving, and although I am deadly sure the guy who owned it previous looked after it no-end I have found it to be a dog. Thing is as they are old you cannot judge the quality of them by looks or service history really.

He had next to no problems with the bike, and I have had nothing but. I bought it as a mint bike, which had been reliable, now it has gone the other way.

Last bike I ever by that is more than 4 years old.


Strange not many people have bad things to say about rvf's, guess you got a lemon mate. That said ive seen 3 year old bikes looking and riding like shite as well.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

newer don't mean better for a start they always release bikes in Beta form , and let riders piss about on them and find faults and issue recalls to fix the problems rather than develop the bike fully which'd cost them more R&D.

For less cynical people there is also new revolutionary parts and bits , they are new and revolutionary and not tried out enmasse.

The TL1000R widow maker was supposed to be hot shit , it wasn't there were many flaws tested out on the public.


that said there are bikes I'd avoid like bikes raped by couriers.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

400s are great bikes and you can have more fun on these than most big bikes. Most people on the big bikes can only go fast in a straight line they cant do corners makes me laugh my socks off.

If the bike you are looking at is a NC29 be aware that the second gear is a weak point on that model.

If you would like more info email me [email protected]
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