MOT.. Does my bike need to be able to start?

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

It does start but I got to bump it. Starter has gone and I dont have a kickstart (WTF where yamaha thinking then they took the kickstart off the newer DT's?!).

Just wondering because my first MOT is next month and I dont wanna spend out getting the starter sorted when Ive lived with bumping it for a while now. Anyhow I need a new front tyre anyway Sad

cheers

also can bumpstarting damage the crank? ive heard of bending crankarms etc..
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carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

Is it the battery that's dead? Not sure what on Earth a yamaha DT is doing with an electric starter anyway!

As far as I can remember, as long as all of your lights etc work without it being started, then it doesn't have to be started, no.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I've certainly MOTed bikes that won't start before. As said, providing the lights all work with the engine off it shouldn't be a problem.
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element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Nah deffo the starter because occasionally it will start and Ive tried another battery which I know is good and it doesnt sort the problem.

There happens to be a slight problem then.. My front lights are those UFO/Acerbis twin spots. I have the dipped beam wired to original parking/pilot light wire and the spot beam is wired to the switched full beam (which only works when the engine is running). So even with the original front light the engine would need to be running to check full beam?.. I do have the original front light but the glass is cracked and I guessed that was a MOT failure?

I can however, kill the engine and the full beam can still be switched on and off aslong as I do no turn off the ignition.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Or you could bump start it and get them to check the lights.

Ask about it at the MOT station before you book it in.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Think now the bike must be capable of running to check the exhaust (think this changed a couple of years ago). But yes the engine will also need to be started to check the lights.

When the bike refuses to start, are there any noises or just silence?

All the best

Keith
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

as long as it starts it should be ok. However, there may be an issue with the electric start. A lot of things are "if fitted, must work" so i think if you whipped the start switch off you would get away with it, but im not 100% sure. I will do some digging...

EDIT: according to this link the starting ststem will not be tested, but the bike will have to be running for the exhaust to be tested for noise, however this is at the tester's discretion, ie. it's up to him whether or not it gets tested. So you may have to start it, you may not, but it shouldnt fail on the starter system.

Jack
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Reading that it sounds like when you roll the bike backin gear you might be disengaging the starter. And normally it is staying engaged. This will damage the starter, but probably also means it doesn't have any momentum behind it when it tries to crank the engine (would probably have turned a few times before it engaged otherwise).

All the best

Keith
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

bendix drive?
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element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

get a bag of stainless socket heads and switch them over Thumbs Up

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Colin G · Nova Slayer Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Karma :

could be a dodgy earth connection.
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