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PostPosted: 22:58 - 23 Oct 2007    Post subject: XENON HID CONVERSION KITS Reply with quote

Evenin all.

Stumbled across these on Ebay and am tempted to give them a whirl seein as them dark winter nights are about to set in.

Just wondered if anyones had, seen or experienced these light kits before?

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BI-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H4-3-For-Motorcycle-Bike_W0QQitemZ130165082759QQihZ003QQcategoryZ72235QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or......

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BI-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H4-3-For-Motorcycle-Bike_W0QQitemZ110184159240QQihZ001QQcategoryZ25628QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 23 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I looked at HID Kits last year they were all £100+ so I'd be wary of them being that cheap. Other than that I've heard they're absolutely brilliant. One of the bike mags showed the difference last year and the HID ballast kit looked like the light spread you'd get from a car.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 23 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,i cant speak much for these 2 Ebay examples cus they look very cheap to me but I work in the Car industry and we sell them for motors.

Nowadays cost about £150 for the cheapest H4 bulb set and they are well worth they money for as long as the bulb lasts because the cheapest replacment bulb is £90!!

The bikes may be a bit different but not sure how cus all my bikes take the H4.

High Intensity Discharge bulbs are by far a better bulb that burn on Xeon gas rarther than a filiment.Then only draw 35W rather than 55W but they use a convertor box that converts it to a massive amount off light numans.

In all unquestionably a better bulb and honestly is like the difference between night and day,but I would be warey off cheap imatations.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 23 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

xenon bulbs use a differnt gas thats all, i'm gettin some for the fizzer soon, there cheap enough so worth the gamble, if your after super brights then a HID upgrade is what you want, but xenon bulbs are brighter than normal halogen ones and reduce yellowin light.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given that the first eBay link is from China and the second from Hong Kong, I'd say they were Chinese. This explains the ludicrously low price and will open your eyes to quality control, or lack there of if you ever buy them. Penny Coin Penny Coin
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look here... https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=129348
After looking at various HID kits from places that want 140 pounds plus like hids4u it seems that they probably get their stock from china anyway. Rolling Eyes The ballasts looks very similar and only the stickers seem different.
I bought a set for 46 quid off ebay that so far work fine and are a huge improvement. in fact i've just sold the 1 i had left for 25 quid plus postage. Laughing Took 6 days to arrive from hong kong, and i cant see any obvious quality issues as yet. If it stops working in 6 months time i'll buy another one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ones frome diane_shop are shit hot.i`ve had a couple of sets from them and a few friends have bought from them and the quality is spot on, no failures and the parts are all consistent.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caft Dunt wrote:
the ones frome diane_shop are shit hot.i`ve had a couple of sets from them and a few friends have bought from them and the quality is spot on, no failures and the parts are all consistent.

Thats where i got mine from, think im gonna order some for my car next.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats my mind mate up. For the sake of 40 notes I might as well give em a go and see what happens. Cheers chaps
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would a bandit 6 (97) be able to handle HID/Xenon bulbs?
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Would a bandit 6 (97) be able to handle HID/Xenon bulbs?

i dont see why not my bike isnt upto date enought without major mods to fid a HID upgrade but i can get the xenon bulbs an side lights for under £10 off ebay. take a look on there an see whats there.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Would a bandit 6 (97) be able to handle HID/Xenon bulbs?

Cant see why not, the only ballache for you is that you might find it hard to hide the ballast since your bike is naked.
With HIDS its not a case of 'will my bike handle them' because they generally use less power than normal halogen lights. Its more like have i got space to hide the ballast. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nb wrote:

After looking at various HID kits from places that want 140 pounds plus like hids4u it seems that they probably get their stock from china anyway. Rolling Eyes The ballasts looks very similar and only the stickers seem different.


Yup, I would be VERY surprised if they didn't take supply from the same place, or at least they will be made in China. The only issue you are exposing yourself to is the potential difficulty of returns to the ebay shop if the stuff is dodgy.

However, I reckon I'm gonna get some myself, as a candle would be better than the SRAD's lights!
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought a pair of Xenon bulbs for a couple of quid & they make quite a big difference over the yellowish stock.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
Bought a pair of Xenon bulbs for a couple of quid & they make quite a big difference over the yellowish stock.


Theres a big difference between "xenons" and HID Xenons.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
i dont see why not my bike isnt upto date enought without major mods to fid a HID upgrade but i can get the xenon bulbs an side lights for under £10 off ebay. take a look on there an see whats there.

You do realise we're talking about High Intensity Discharge kits which require a ballasts to pass current through metal vapour, rather than a normal filament bulb surrounded by Xenon gas don't you?
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didnt buy the conversions but got some HID blubs.
Bandit likes are just rubbish, and couldnt really see anything without full beam. Changed em over and it was a good improvement.
Going to do the same with the SV - altho I was thinking of giving up riding at night time. I just cant see the road.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like these louise? https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H4-Blue-Platinum-H-I-D-12V-130Watt-Xenon-Blubs-Pair_W0QQitemZ330177756119QQihZ014QQcategoryZ72235QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What actually comprises the HID conversion kit? (The images for the ebay advert are blocked at work) I have xenon bulb and they are better than standard and only cost £12 the pair.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
What actually comprises the HID conversion kit? (The images for the ebay advert are blocked at work) I have xenon bulb and they are better than standard and only cost £12 the pair.

I bought a car kit so i got 2 of everything.
You get a ballast for each headlamp, wiring to go from ballast to bulb and then back to your original headlamp power supply.
And the hid bulb for each ballast.
Like this https://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/mytightride/HIDkit.jpg
Xenon bulbs and actual xenons (HIDS) are totally different things, the so called 'xenon' bulbs on ebay are probably just 100 watt bulbs instead of the normal 55w. You will see a small improvement with higher wattage bulbs but actual hids are 2-3 times as bright in lumens as halogen bulbs.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look tempting.
I ride alot in the dark so would be great for me, my high beam's ok, but normal isn't so good.

It is just a simple plug it in job? cba to fiddle around with all the wiring, (capable, just lazy Laughing )
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you buy the right bulb type you wont have to cut any wires if you dont want to. Just mount the ballast in your fairing, connect ballast to bulb, then connect the wires coming off the bulb to your normal bulb connectors. I used insulation tape to hold the connectors in place. The only thing you might have to do is work out which wire is power and which is earth on your headlamp connector. So that you dont fry it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the sounds of it, i may be investing in some soon Wink
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN ninjas did a bulk order of those chinese ones and they said they worked a treat because apparently, you only pay for 1x shipping costs. So if everybody bulk orders, it'll be stonkingly cheap mind. I wanted to fork out 100 quid on the HID's 4 U one, but I might just get the ebay one in due course (after my MOT and bike gets resprayed). Either that or get philips vision extreme which is meant to be the best halogens out there. HID's would look cool, but then again, there's the type approval issue since i read something about them having to be self levelling so as not to blind people etc or summat. Sod it, i'm gonna ride in winter so i'll need em anyway!
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 24 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
XlonewolfX wrote:
i dont see why not my bike isnt upto date enought without major mods to fid a HID upgrade but i can get the xenon bulbs an side lights for under £10 off ebay. take a look on there an see whats there.

You do realise we're talking about High Intensity Discharge kits which require a ballasts to pass current through metal vapour, rather than a normal filament bulb surrounded by Xenon gas don't you?

no i've been wanking through the whole thread. Rolling Eyes
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