1979 Suzuki GT200 X5 Restoration

N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

Well after wanting one for a while, but not the right ones coming up, i finally found this one, £320 and it had been in a garage since 1980.

7900 something miles, so went yesterday with kickstart to pick it up, thanks again keith Smile

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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

Drake · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Karma :

did you use a potato to take them pictures?
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Hobgoblin · Trackday Trickster Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Karma :

Good project Rob, Seen one of these today. Be watching this!
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N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

i might aswell have done, phones gonna get a sledge hammer through it
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/BLUEX5/a04704d4.jpg

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/BLUEX5/26b307b1.jpg

I shall be sending these over to Rob some point next week.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

blurredman · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Sep 2010 Karma :

That's cool rob. Now give it to me.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Keith,

I have a bike in North Wales, would you mind picking up and driving it down?

Can't be 1 rule for 1 and another for someone else Wink

Thanks

Nice bike Rob, best be ready by BBQ yeah Mr. Green

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

OK, ride up here, come with me to get the bike, back to yours to drop it off and then back here for your bike, and pay the petrol then maybe Wink

All the best

Keith
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Seems I get the poo end of the stick there Thinking

evoboy · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Karma :

Must get my x7 back together now then. Blue X friends. Laughing

One word for this thread......

Spannies.
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Pol Anorl · Banned Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Karma :

i LOOV this bike.

You see wut i did there
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bladerunner · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Karma :

You have a good seat and the top panel behind the seat! Rare that! I had one of these as my only form of transport for a couple of years. Slow but fun....and a lot less nasty handling than the x7 I had after!!
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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

It's a shame you took the pictures with a potato, but it appears from the pictures to be in quite good condition.

It looks like there is some rust breaking through the paint on top of the tank. Try giving it a gentle going over with a finishing pad and then some decent paint restorer (auto glym works well). The finishing pad will remove the rust without attacking the paint, and the paint restorer will help to cover the rust a bit. I did this on a CB250RS tank that looked awful, now it looks ok - still pitted, but a bit more used and "authentic", rather than just knackered. Cheaper than a respray.

I don't know if your plans are for a full on restoration, or a clean-up and ride. I would be tempted to go with the latter option. It will still take you a few months of weekends to get it roadworthy, but then you could ride it a bit next year before deciding if you want to pull it down for a full-on restoration.

Standing is very bad for two-strokes, there is a strong likelihood of rust in assorted crank bearings after 20 years. This is why I would recommend getting it roadworthy enough to ride a bit before throwing serious money at it. It is likely to need a crank rebuild, which means you might as well go the whole hog and have a rebore with new pistons while you're at it. Seeing as you'll be spending all that on a rebuild, you might as well get the porting fiddled while you have it apart. And some decent exhausts....
This is how projects like this get out of hand.

Protip, based on experience. If you decide to strip it all down, get the frame, swingarm, and a few other bits powder coated. It does cost a few quid, but I wish I had done it rather than spend a silly amount of time sanding back parts, treating the rust, and hammeriting them. It just means I get to see hammerite gradually flake and chip away.

Finally, whatever crazy dreams you have about modding it, turning it into a cafe racer or such nonsense, don't cut anything off the frame or break any standard parts in the process. At some point you'll decide to make it standard, don't put it in a state where this is impossible.

N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

You've pretty much mentioned everything i have been thinking about Robby, turning it in to a cafe racer is a thing i don't want to waste this on.

The engine seems ok atm, but i assume there's some hidden secret, so it might just end up getting sent off for a refresh, allspeed expansion chambers look tidy and sound good on youtube video's so might be in the pipeline eventually, but i'll see how i get on with this, if it bores me i might just sell it after its up to a running standard and then get a 350lc or a ypvs

Wheels need putting back to standard colours, swingarms been painted by smiler and the frame could probably do with a respray eventually, seeing if the engines any good is the first plan anyway.
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

.Chris. · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Karma :

Nice project Very Happy

. Not too silly a price either, which is an increasing rarity with bikes like that.

As above, given that it's essentially all there I'd be tempted to do the bare minimum to get it on the road, ride it for a bit, then make a decision about how far you want to go in terms of restoration. Sometimes you just don't gel with a bike, and it'd be pretty annoying to find that out after you've spent large amounts of time and money restoring it, when you could have found out before! It also gives you the opportunity to uncover faults that you might otherwise have not known about. The danger with this approach is that if you like the bike and it's essentially OK, you never end up doing any more to it. That's certainly a trap I could see myself falling into.
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N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

Just gone through it with a fine tooth comb

wiring's abit here and there so will need tiding up, some nobs pulled the top mount off the airbox so it has a hole in thar...

everything else is just normal tidying up and cleaning, really need a haynes now

some people go to soo much effort..

https://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/robyarr/bike%20stuff/IMG_20120829_105559.jpg
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

Timbo Foggins · Trackday Trickster Joined: 21 May 2011 Karma :

Should've washed the bike, not the camera Laughing

Looks alright for the money. Imagine it'll look even better with a little tidying. Thumbs Up

N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

ya camera was covered in dust D;
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

Bobby, do you need a full airbox then?

Let me know.
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18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free

18:54:59 Rob Fzs: unless its their clothes/ hair/ golden teeth

N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

pretty much yeh, old ones no use at all now.

got the sprocket cover off to unhide the 2 stroke pump, needs cleaning up and all the lines replacing me thinks, reminded of Philips head screws and how my impact driver/ dremel is good at getting them out, have to see if anyone does a kit for the x5 of stainless socket caps.
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'00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30 Mod 2 Passed 09/06/2011

Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

N cee thirty · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Karma :

Well today i received a parcel of Bluex5

https://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/robyarr/bike%20stuff/IMG_20120903_202942.jpg

https://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/robyarr/bike%20stuff/IMG_20120903_204255.jpg

and a haynes manual which i've forgot to put in the pile with them for some reason.

everything i pretty much need to get the bike going now, just need a battery and a air-filter, cleaned the carbs with a ultra sonic cleaner and now they are spotless, hopefully throttle cable will come soon , refresh the 2 stroke oil/ gearbox oil and see if she goes.
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

No probs Rob, glad the stuff is of use to someone.

Especially good to see someone else building a TRUE and HONEST 2t Laughing

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18:54:59 Rob Fzs: unless its their clothes/ hair/ golden teeth

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