rear tail light with built in indicators - question

[rockers]

Hi all thought i got a good deal, a rear tail light with built in indicators, led one.
But have just been told these are not legal ?
Is this true ? why main question will it get through a m.o.t. ?

Cheers

Rocky

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Possibly because the indicators are not 'E' marked, or are less than a certain distance apart (I think it's 24cm). Couldn't find where it's mentioned though, but I have put it in another post somewhere...

https://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_150.htm

Maybe just ring the test station and ask before you take it?
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[Valentino Mossy]

I have one for the gsxr. Clear one with built in indi's.

From what i've found out, they wont pass the mot, as the indicators are too close together.
So for the mot you could put the indicators back on and disconnect the led ones.... two wires.

Also with the clear ones, you will have to fit a reflector on to the number plate as the one i bought doesnt have them fitted.
The same goes for number plate light....

So you will need a led number plate light and reflector for it to pass the mot.

But i've recently taken back off due to the led brake lights playing up and the fact that a lot of people commented on that sometimes you cant tell which way im indicating as the lights are so close.

But they do look cool though
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[rockers]

Yer so put standered ones on for m.o.t. and then see how the led ones work out, for the sake of 12 quid posted isnt a bad price for a rear led brake light

[The Shaggy D.A.]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=179494

which links to...

https://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_12.htm
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[Valentino Mossy]

Yeah ^^^ the ones in the original link are the ones i've got.
Looks really good,(esp when i had the flush mounted front ones as well) but after about a year the led's started playing up.
And again people said they didnt know which way i was turning from a distance.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Being legal and getting through an MOT are very different things. I suspect it will get through an MOT, but it might depend on the tester.

All the best

Keith
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[DanHam]

Mine are intergrated into the rear light, looks much cleaner, mine are quite easy to see and has passed 3 MOT's with it now.
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[Faraz]

I was stopped by two bike cops.

One asked where my rear indi's were, I told/showed him the integrated light and he just said
"oh, ok."

Twas all good.
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[rockers]

is there a date to which if the bike was made before it does not require indicators ?

[Mystery]

[G]

I've seen them get through an MOT ok, but doesn't mean they will in all cases.
In my experience, it does make it harder to see your indicators. Not a great thing to my mind, though something that plenty of people do still do anyway.

Again, just because one police-person lets it go, doesn't mean all will.
It would worry me most if someone crashed into you when turning and that was used as justification for it being your fault not theirs.

I think indicators depends on the original design of the bike for MOT. I've got various enduro bikes etc through with no indicators.

[MonkeyKnuckle]

I had one on my CBR600F. It was made by BikeIt, it had a built in number plate light and was 'E' marked. Passed it's MOT with no problems.

Here's a video just for the sake of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlkYmNS1vns

My RR already had one on it but I'm going to be fitting some more traditional LED 'arrow' indicators and disconnecting the ones in the tail light.
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[yuri2085]

I thought indicators are not required and one can just use hand signals? Am I madly misinformed?
edit: that vid, I would probably not notice you are indicating there :s or at least I would take a second to realise what was going on.

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[chris-red]

They are day anyway those all in one lights and pretty dangerous IMO they are hard to see especially in the daytime.
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[lllN30lll]

had some on the R1, I think it was made by clear alternatives.

never had a problem with them.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/lllN30lll/piccy-0521.jpg
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[Valentino Mossy]

love the number plate !
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[Faldo]

I've had them on 3 bikes, they were never mentioned at MOT time or when pulled by plod.

IMO they are just as noticable as the OE indicators, and on my 7R I'd say they were more noticable as they had twice the surface area of the original indicators.

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[growler]

any bike registered before 1986 doesn't have to have indicators but if fitted must work
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