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Blackwolf
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Building a PC Reply with quote

I dont know much about building a PC, been looking at websites to build your own.

Was wondering here if anyone knows if this is a good spec? Should i make any changes?

Its for gaming, general PC stuff, and proberly some CAD work.

Anyone here good at building them? or even have Windows 7 lurking about Wink

Looking to spend about 900-1K

Also, graphics cards... been out the loop for a while... is the one I have any good? or is it worth Changing? anyone know any good sites for getting components/cheaper companys to build them/Anyone here built a lot? Laughing

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Processor i7-930 (2.80GHz) 4.8GTs/8MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® P6TD DELUXE, EXTREME OVERCLOCKING, SLI & CROSSFIREX

Memory (RAM)
6GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1600MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY

Graphics Card
1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5750 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11



Memory - 1st Hard Disk
250GB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7,200rpm)


1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM


Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling
INTEL SOCKET LGA1366 STANDARD CPU COOLER

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® Audigy™ SE (£25)

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£108)



For that build i have been given a price of £1088

That good?
Same with mother boards, Intel or AMD?

Cheers for help! Smile
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compaired to this build?

* Gigabyte GZ-X1 Black ATX MIDI Tower Case
* ASUS P6T: 6x Rear USB2.0: 2x Front USB2.0: 1x Rear Firewire
* Intel® Core™ i7 930 2.8GHz
* Thermaltake TR2 500W PSU
* Standard CPU Cooling Fan
* Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz
* 500GB 7200RPM SATA II
* 22x DVD RW Black SATA
* ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
* Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit
* Built-in audio


Some stuff I know about, other not. just looking for some people with better knowlage Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go for at least a 500gb HDD, or 1 terrabye like this:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA

Uses 2 500gig platters (effectively two 500 gig hdds working as one)

Also, for the graphics card, id go for a 5870, suits the system far better.

Also, Get a decent heatsink for the CPU and get it over clocked (good o/cing CPU) Something like

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-011-NC&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395


or this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-008-PL&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395 with two fans (working in a push/pull config)

EDIT: I think with a 5870 and a big CPU cooler, your going to need a pretty big case. Something like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-157-CM&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=

Ill try and draw up a list on overclockers and get back to ya Smile

Right thats a little bit over budget, but that would be pretty much top of the range (or close to it) Im not expert in AMD so i dont know about that Laughing

Chop and change things if you want to lower the budget, e.g. lower graphics card and slightly smaller case would lower it by a few hundred. also shopping around you'll find that you could get some components cheaper!
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing with the other sites is that they build it, knowing my luck i will undoubtdly somehow make some static and fry the component Laughing

As for the HDD is there any differnce using say 2X250GB instead of 1 500GB?

I will be using a Removabe HDD too
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackwolf wrote:
The only thing with the other sites is that they build it, knowing my luck i will undoubtdly somehow make some static and fry the component Laughing

As for the HDD is there any differnce using say 2X250GB instead of 1 500GB?

I will be using a Removabe HDD too


Just the obvious, that you will run out quicker with two smaller drives and end up having to move stuff around. Also one 500GB hard drive will cost about a tenner more than one 250GB.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right so a 500GB HDD it is, I don't need any more space realy, if I do I'll just install another one.

Was wondering here if anyone knows if this is a good spec? Should i make any changes?

Anyone here good at building them? or even have Windows 7 lurking about Wink

Looking to spend about 900-1K

Also, graphics cards... been out the loop for a while... is the one I have any good? or is it worth Changing? anyone know any good sites for getting components/cheaper companys to build them/Anyone here built a lot?

Any help with the questions above?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the money you are talking you could probably get a SSD in there for game files or a boot drive.

Something like the Intel x-25 nice and quick and with windows 7 you would get TRIM support.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neorion wrote:
For the money you are talking you could probably get a SSD in there for game files or a boot drive.

Something like the Intel x-25 nice and quick and with windows 7 you would get TRIM support.


Is an SSD THAT much faster than a HDD? and whats TRIM support?
where as I could set up a RAID on the HDD? or is that a NO NO?

I'm not to fussed about the startup time, it will prob be sitting on all the time. just after some info in the spec, I wasnt going to order all the parts and install them my self as A I dont know good prices for the parts and B, cases sizes and things like that. The Spec at the top was from this site:

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

I just wasnt to sure if thats a good spec? if the graphics card i have selected is good. along with the motherboard, I have decided to get 1600MHz rather than the 1333MHz as it should be faster. Same with my motherboard not sure if its good or not. OR even should I switch to an AMD alltogether?

Sorry lots of questions been "out the loop" for a while. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

looked at newer amd six core cpu's? pretty impressive!

i think a 5770 is alittle bit of a let down considering your goign i7 with a 930... why not got i5 ? or a 850 i7?

as for 500w tr2 powersupply .... id get atleast a 650w corrair etc not so happy with a 500w in that system to be honest altho a tr2 is a good psu id go for somethign with more punch
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Processor i7-930 (2.80GHz) 4.8GTs/8MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® P6TD DELUXE, EXTREME OVERCLOCKING, SLI & CROSSFIREX

Memory (RAM)
6GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1600MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY

Graphics Card
896MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX260


Memory - 1st Hard Disk
500GB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7,200rpm)


Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling
INTEL SOCKET LGA1366 STANDARD CPU COOLER


What about something like that?

As for graphics cards is there much differnce between nVidia and ATI?

Hows that graphics card?

That a better setup?
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as SSD's go they are uber quick compared to a standard drive for READ speeds, write is still quite slow but for gaming, loading level, and standard apps opening they are incredibly quick.
A single SSD (Intel X-25) is faster than a spinning raid setup.

you do pay a premium just now though.

TRIM support is where the onchip database is "wiped" when an area of the drive is unused because the database is wiped and not the cluster on the drive itself this lengthens the life of the unit and keeps performance up.

There is more to it but that's what you need to know at least.

Windows 7 does this out of the box.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/images/products/1870/1_big.jpg


TITAN FENRIR TTC-NK85TZ/V2
Fenrir-TTC-NK85TZ has many rich characteristics; comparing with the original heat pipe size at 6mm, Fenrir possesses 4 larger 8 mm diameter copper heat pipes with the direct touch design to maximize the overclocking performance up to 160W and succeed in offering the best cooling performance. The 12cm giant fan with built-in PWM speed control technology will operate automatically to solve overheating problems and provide a silent environment.

The Fenrir, especially suitable for Intel LGA1366 and LGA 1156 (TTC-NK85TZ/V2) is absolutely the best thermal solution for your computer.

Hows that? better or not? im trying to avoid buying things and adding them on.

Cheers for help so far guys. Thumbs Up
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