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dardappa2004
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: should i have got a ticket?? Reply with quote

Basically i parked my bike in a cycle rack and was given a parking ticket sayin :

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Parked or loading/unloading in a restricted street where waiting and loading/unloading restrictions are in place. Basically i have already gone down to council saying that on thre cycle rack it does not state it for pedal bikes only and that i believe a wrong offence code was issued.

They just got back to me sayin, the restriction for no loading (double yellow lines plus kerb double kerb marks operates from the centre of the highway to the start of private property, and therefore includes the cycle rack area, your motorcycle was therefore in contravention of the no loading restriction. you are not allowed to park within the no loading restriction.

You state that there is not signage indicating that motorcycles are not permittedto park in this cycle rack. No signage is needed. unless you have parked your motorcycle in a dedicated area for motorcycles, any restriction which is on the road apllies to the pavement area.

I just would like advise on what to do? Pay or not??

Any help much appreciated Karma
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

Continue on vaughan way nandos will be on left where i parked my bike.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, I dont think you'll get away with it.

But, I guess you could argue that your tax class is 'bicycle' and you were parked with the other 'bicycles'. Wink

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PostPosted: 10:18 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it have any signs at all?


I've parked at cycle racks hundereds of times before without any problems. It's not like your bike is causing an obstruction.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were there 'no loading ' plates backing up the kerb blips adjacent to the section of footway you parked on? Your google map link didn't work, lots of Vaughan Ways to choose from.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: . Reply with quote

There was a no loading sign but that was on the other side of road which i didnt spot. on the google map just put in Highcross Street, Leicester and put the lil man on vaughnway and carry on down it, you should see it.

I think the traffic warden was being a C*£K as i asked another traffic warden at the time and she said she would not have gave one . .
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try the tax disk route. Take a pic of your disk and state its a bicycle.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatHornet wrote:
I would try the tax disk route. Take a pic of your disk and state its a bicycle.

It was said in jest above, that's going to be a waste of time.

Generally if you're not in London you can get away with it, but if a parking warden needs to meet their quota and is in a bad mood etc, there's not much you can do in such situations really - like being caught doing 47 in a 40 by a cop car on a wide and 'safe' road.
You weren't being dangerous, but you haven't got much change of getting away with it.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
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I would try the tax disk route. Take a pic of your disk and state its a bicycle.

It was said in jest above, that's going to be a waste of time.

Generally if you're not in London you can get away with it, but if a parking warden needs to meet their quota and is in a bad mood etc, there's not much you can do in such situations really - like being caught doing 47 in a 40 by a cop car on a wide and 'safe' road.
You weren't being dangerous, but you haven't got much change of getting away with it.


IMO anything is better than paying. I've had tickets that i have had no chance of paying, 3 i got off just by saying that i don't believe i should be given the ticket. One i blagged that i had a ticket.

You just got to try you luck.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

54 Vaughan way Leicester gives you the location on google maps Smile
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PostPosted: 07:20 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't have got a ticket unless it explicitly states no motorcycles. Tax disc says anything with two wheels is a bicycle, so you can park in bicycle spaces, surely. In Canterbury, Burgate, they have a cycle rack place where motorcycles park all the time (though I think that does state that m/cycles are permitted).
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres 2 motorcycle parking bays in leicester 1 near the bus station st margarets and 1 just before the town hall square,thats where i park if ever i need to go to town
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, that's tough luck. Not like you're a problem there.

Anyway, you probably need to be concentrating on whether the double yellows are painted on absolutely correctly, and getting over to www.pepipoo.com
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh in stafford it used to be fine to park in the cycle racks around town, but the council took over the parking wardens and issued a warning that motorcyclists will be given tickets if they park in them now. Low and behold they did ticket peds and bikes for parking in all the cycle racks scattered around town Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not as if the things were usually jammed full of bicycles.
I used to use one in Redcar for years but got a ticket for it from a new warden looked about 18.
I've never been to Redcar again!

Why do most towns try to make it difficult and expensive as possible to visit?
It's a nasty money-grabbing culture in this country.
Most of Europe you can park a bike if not car anywhere sensible without some jumped up tosspot trying to fine you and thinking he's done something clever.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its too late in this case but what happens if you ignore a ticket because "it blew of in the wind" or "it got removed by a cheeky chappy"
Do they ever bother to chase them up?
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rip-off britain, you werent doing anything wrong, your bike wasnt causing an obstruction, its as neat as the other bikes in the racks so whats the problem apart from the councils greed to collect revenue
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: should i have got a ticket?? Reply with quote

I think if it was in London they'd have issued a fine for parking on the pavement, but obviously they can't do that in Leicester as its permitted unless otherwise stated although as they say it is correct that the yellow lines apply to the pavement as well as the road itself.
It would be easier to appeal if they gave you a ticket for pavement parking as you could argue the cycle racks don't form part of the pavement, being a place over which people can freely walk.
I think they're only making a point regarding loading though as they are assuming you could say you were doing so, obviously with the kerbside blips (there should be a sign too) you can't do that either.
If you're saying though that the sign is missing for no loading (there ought to be one) then that is enough for an appeal, if you can suggest you were loading although that might be hard to back up.
Generally though I'd suggest they're just being cnuts for the sake of making a bit of wonga, as councils typically do. You weren't doing anything unreasonable, just parked in the obvious place well out of the way of everything and causing no obstruction.
I'd recommend you post this on this forum though as you might get some good advice on how to appeal it there:
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dardappa2004 wrote:
Basically i parked my bike in a cycle rack and was given a parking ticket sayin :

Code o2
Parked or loading/unloading in a restricted street where waiting and loading/unloading restrictions are in place. Basically i have already gone down to council saying that on thre cycle rack it does not state it for pedal bikes only and that i believe a wrong offence code was issued.

They just got back to me sayin, the restriction for no loading (double yellow lines plus kerb double kerb marks operates from the centre of the highway to the start of private property, and therefore includes the cycle rack area, your motorcycle was therefore in contravention of the no loading restriction. you are not allowed to park within the no loading restriction.

You state that there is not signage indicating that motorcycles are not permittedto park in this cycle rack. No signage is needed. unless you have parked your motorcycle in a dedicated area for motorcycles, any restriction which is on the road apllies to the pavement area.

I just would like advise on what to do? Pay or not??

Any help much appreciated Karma
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried or had any success with "no contract return to sender" yet?

https://www.tpuc.org/content/no-contract-return-sender

I think, that there are certain times it cannot be used, but all seems to be in a vast mess of confusion at the moment.

Certainly it is worth a try, some people are clearly having various levels of success with it.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would try the tax disk route. Take a pic of your disk and state its a bicycle.


Vid of this on youtube. A guy ran down a bus lane on purpose, V5 in hand waiting to get a tug by the cop he knew was there.

Showed him the bicycle thing, as push bikes can use the buslane, it didn't work surprise surprise.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's 2 more people that I've discovered are also in Leicester Laughing I clicked on th pictures and though "Is that... It is!" Laughing

Tbh, I think they've got you "bang to rights". As said, there is plenty of bike parking near the town hall.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're v5 says you're a bicycle so you might be in with a chance Smile good luck
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

People always say that... Can't see it ever working tbh. It's a motorized vehicle, so treated differently to a pushbike.
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PostPosted: 06:11 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd definitely argue that the bike wasn't causing any kind of obstruction or inconvenience to pedestrians or anyone else. Things like double yellows are there for a reason. But there is no good reason for not allowing a motorcycle to park among the pushbikes. I'm guessing if it had been a moped or something like a CG, the Nazi would probably have let it pass.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need to appeal and state you werent causing an obstrution, and also the code is wrong. Once they realise the error, they don't have a leg to stand on. Despite that they will still insist that you pay! Don't! There must be yellow lines that go up and over the kerb. Take it to appeal court, they thrown the towl in the last minute. Remember they are trying to get as much money by pushing you to it with all these threats.

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