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Throttle
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Numberplates - Talk to me! Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm after a new numberplate for the Monkey as the last one had a hole burnt through from the exhaust as well as other various holes drilled in for L's and such.

Anyway, I've seen these metal plates, yellow with black lettering. If they are the correct size, are they legal???? If not, I'm thinking of getting a standard plate with a slogan. Anyone know a cheap place for these??

Trying to come up with a slogan, all I can think of size related is "Size doesn't matter (I hope!)". Anyone got any ideas?
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Bezzer
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pressed metal plate won't be legal, it won't have the correct reflective standard therefore won't have the BS markings even if it was legal font.
Can't see it being a problem day to day or a "routine" stop but if you get pulled in for a proper vehicle check you'd meet someone who knew what was what and could get done. Same goes for a slogan, you legally can't have one. The choice is yours
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:
A pressed metal plate won't be legal, it won't have the correct reflective standard therefore won't have the BS markings even if it was legal font.
Can't see it being a problem day to day or a "routine" stop but if you get pulled in for a proper vehicle check you'd meet someone who knew what was what and could get done. Same goes for a slogan, you legally can't have one. The choice is yours


I've seen a few cars and bikes with pressed plates and assumed it was legal - I assume it's a case of just swapping them to the standard plate for an MOT?
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read here for the rules

https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates/overview

and you can only use certain places to get your plates done, the dvla have a list of who you can use in your area.

https://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/vehicles/search.aspx?ext=dg
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Bezzer
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:

I've seen a few cars and bikes with pressed plates and assumed it was legal - I assume it's a case of just swapping them to the standard plate for an MOT?

Yep just swop them, the only legal pressed plates are the black and white/silver ones that vehicles pre 1973 can display as they aren't /don't have to be reflective
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked into it a while back. Black and white pressed plates are legal for pre-'60s-ish vehicles (might have been '73, maybe?). Black and yellow ones are legal if they were originally fitted before about 1987 or so, as I remember. Think that was from reading some bits of Acts, can't give exact sources 'fraid.

But of course, the law's not straightforward, there might be more recent legislation that requires that all plates are retroreflective bar black/white ones for vintage things, IANAL, etc.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure slogans aren't allowed, if you really want to be legal. Allowed a garage name, I'm pretty sure, and required to have the address of the place that produced the plate, at least for new ones.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can order legal metal plates here and various other places, the plates are BS marked and totally road legal.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pressed-Metal-GB-number-plates-100-ROAD-LEGAL-/121097549316?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c31f9f604

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRESSED-ALUMINIUM-METAL-100-ROAD-LEGAL-YELLOW-WHITE-NUMBER-PLATES-NO-LOGO-/321074183095?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ac1833bb7
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy '100% legal' pressed metal plates. They're reflective, have the correct sizes, spacing and font, the makers name / postcode, and the BS number.

A cop can still do you for them.. They've been a grey area for years tbh
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The legislation for number plates is called:

The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

Link:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/contents/made

You are mainly looking at Schedule 2. In that it states about BS AU 145a which I have attached.

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From the Standard:

Quote:
7.1 The complete retroreflecting background area of
the number plate shall be a continuous, substantially
flat surface
except that an integral raised or
depressed margin, of width and height not exceeding
5 mm and 2 mm respectively, is permitted around
the number plate periphery.

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PostPosted: 20:42 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheer for the replies. So I'm guessing a bog standard plate is the way to go, I'm also thinking borders are out too???

Oh well, worth knowing I guess.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:19 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you think I feel? That big wind catcher is going to reduce my speed by 10mph now Laughing
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