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eddie011
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Front sprocket securing help! Reply with quote

Ok so I have a sachs x-road 125 08 model
I notice to hear a funny sound coming from the engine
I thought it was the gear box slipping
But it took my chain to snap while I was riding it to notice the front
Sprocket is wobbly and moves about is there anything I can do to secure this and can someone explain how to take off and fit them properly

Iv attached a pic of the sprocket and other part
That comes with it
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fronts sprokets are designed to have play in them so they wont bolt on solid or the inpput shaft could be damage if everything isn't lined up properly..

When you renew the sprokets and chain make sure everything is lined up and on the right way round and tension of the chain is correct.. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sprocket slips on, the plate goes on and twists to stop sprocket coming off and you put the bolts in to hold plate in place

These always wobble a little bit but not a great deal.

Best to take it off and look for wear on the shaft or sprocket.
best to replace either if worn but hopefully sprocket out of either as they cost very little.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW WEMoto tells me with that retainer it'd be a Morini engine - click here for parts.

As said above should be straightforward. Only difference is use of the retaining clip and bolts.

Also FWIW motorcyclenews.com did an article on replacing chain/sprockets - click here for article.
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eddie011
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply guys ,
The drive shaft seems ok no play in it I just thought front sprocket had to be solid but maybe I might be wrong in saying the chain might have to much slack and the nose is the chain bouncing and sliding along the swing arm
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A front sprocket should have a bit of wobble.

It's normal.
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YBR Ric
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's held in place with a massive nut and 132Nm of torque, definately not wobbly Wink
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If it has that kind of retaining plate then I suggest putting a bit of loctite on the threads of the 2 small bolts. They don't need to be that tight, but you don't want them coming undone.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:00 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just don't weld it on like one of our less mechanically sympathetic members Smile
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, don't weld it Smile

Do grease the splines though to reduce wear.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
No, don't weld it Smile

Do grease the splines though to reduce wear.


I was always under the impression you shouldn't grease splines? Or is that splines that are machined to tighter tolerances (ie car driveshaft/hub interface)?
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 03 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee Wright wrote:
Pete. wrote:
No, don't weld it Smile

Do grease the splines though to reduce wear.


I was always under the impression you shouldn't grease splines? Or is that splines that are machined to tighter tolerances (ie car driveshaft/hub interface)?


Always grease splines (unless in an oil lubricated environment)
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you rub two pieces of dry metal together, they will wear each other out. If they are lubed they won't. Always grease the splines.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 04 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
If you rub two pieces of dry metal together, they will wear each other out. If they are lubed they won't. Always grease the splines.


It is called "fretting", Pete.
It is what causes the rusty stains found on many parts and as you state ,is to be avoided.
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