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Yes, particularly with a manual choke. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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No, not even with a manual choke.
It may be more convenient to fire it up and then go through your rituals, but it's not necessary. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Who was it on here that crashed cos his engine spluttered as it was cold? With my 125 it wouldn't even accelerate properly when cold (manual choke). With automatic chokes its not as bad but I still want the engine to be running properly before setting off. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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There's a lot of different bits of moving metal in an engine and some expand at different rates to others. Tolerances etc. in the engine will have been designed for a running within a temperature range.
And of course if the engine has been stopped for some time, the top of the engine won't have a whole lot of oil. An engine that has been running for a couple of minutes will have had the oil pump going for a while.
Cold oil is also a bit more viscous.
Just ride more gently for the first couple of minutes. The engine is usually a bit rougher, and may need a bit more throttle to avoid stalling. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Best practice is to start engine and ride off
Lots don't and I don't suppose it make a big difference
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Once started it should take only a few moments for the bike to be fit to pull away, especially in the current weather. If the bike complains when you do it the first time by bogging badly causing you to have to catch it on the clutch just leave it a bit longer next time.
Ride away gently and avoid high revs or labouring the engine until you're warmed through and you won't be doing it any harm. If you have a temperature gauge it's easy to tell when it's warmed through, otherwise you'll have to judge it by the responsiveness. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Hi
Another vote for starting it and moving off pretty much ASAP. Some are a bit mardy when they are on the choke but normally pretty easy to ride around that (my 1200 Bandit when standard would require the choke to start when cold, but would stall at the first junction about 200 yards away if I left the choke on).
In a car I don't sometimes. I am a wuss and the heater is nice .
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Again, every bike is different, but aside from the fact I don't like annoying neighbours my fireblade in particular is better with immediate ride off. Depending on the temperature, I might need choke in a morning. If I don't start and ride off when the choke is required it would splutter to a halt after about two minutes and then it's a twat to restart after that.
So for me, choke (or not choke) and ride off tentatively, after about 1/4-1/2 mile remove choke (if it was on) and the bike is perfect.
Same with the car, start up and go. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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None of my bikes nor cars were any worse off for me pulling away immediately. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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I usually don't. Engine on in the garage, within a minute of back-n-forthing it out onto the road i'll be away. I do take it easy for a few miles until its warmed up though, can feel and hear a little difference usually until its got warm.
My SB200 however did need warming up or it would run like a sack of spanners, but that might be because is a two stroke/old n' knackered, or both not too sure. |
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