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It's the same thing with every police force across the country every year at the start of summer. It's so predictable and people raging on their bookface page are just increasing their publicity which is exactly what they want. Pisses off bikers but makes everyone else see that they're doing something about those pesky motorcycles.
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Today is "talk on your mobile while driving" day. As they are occupied by looking and listening to your exhaust instead  ____________________ Bandit 600 - deaded |
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| dydey90 wrote: | Is there some sort of law that can be used in your defensive if they try to illegally seize your bike at the side of the road?
"Sorry sir, far too loud, undeclared, blah blah, look at my tiny willy, blah blah..."
"It has Kawasaki stamped on it."
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I'm pretty sure the police can only seize your vehicle (other than with regard to criminal proceedings) if it is unsafe to ride, it has no tax or it is uninsured.
As snoosnoo has already hinted at (and as has been discussed at length previously), you can even request an inspection is deferred to a time and place convenient to yourself. Make the request as soon as they start poking about. Then, unless you are in a commercial vehicle, you have been involved in an accident or there is something obviously dangerously wrong with your vehicle (bald tyre, bits hanging off etc), they have no legal basis for continuing with the inspection.
Chapter and verse is: Schedule 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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They should have a listen to what the "legal" exhaust on Brother Borg's XKR-S sounds like.
Right, crib sheet.
It is an offence to:
Fail to stop for a constable in uniform (or a traffic womble).
Fail to give your name, address and date of birth.
That's it.
It's for them to form a reasonable belief that you're not insured. You aren't required to help them in any way.
Deferment of the test is covered under RTA 1988 S67 (6).
If they say that your exhaust is too loud, be aware that doesn't mean with them revving the tits off of it in neutral. There's a carefully defined ride-by test that has to be carried out under load at specific speeds under controlled conditions. I'd be surprised if DVSA (who's "VOSA"?) has facilities to do it in that area, let alone Plodforce. It's so involved that even I can't be doing with quoting it.
So I'd go with say nothing, refuse any FPN, and if it gets passed to the CPS, and if they touch it and if they file it with a court in a timely fashion, then you can invite them to produce their actual evidence of having carried out any sort of objective test. Constable McKilljoy may have had his steely speed estimating eye calibrated against approved devices, but his ears? I'd doubt it.
As to the insurance angle, well, they might get some traction on that before a Magistrate, or even a High Court judge. I'd expect it to have to go to the grown ups in the Court of Appeals before finding someone who will actually read the law.
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I was under the impression that stuff like that could lead to perverting the course of justice
which would be worse than getting nicked for a dodgy exhaust in the first place ____________________ "The guy is a worthless cunt and I honestly believe I would be a slightly happier person if he died." - Chris-Red |
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But the moment you mention that stuff and make them look bad isn't it I smell alcohol on breath, club to head, then tazer for resisting arrest, and assaulting a police officer's fists with your face.
Then a whitewash IPPC investigation showing that the police were totally right? ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 229 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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