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I have wanted to start this thread for a while now but have never really got around to it, but I think now I really could do with some advice from the BCF masses. I'm not sure how well I'm going to be able to put my issues into words (never been much good at it) but here goes;
I currently work as an Architectural Technician which is pretty much what I went to college for 2 years to do. However; now nearly 2 years into the job it is pretty apparent that I am not cut out for this sort of work.
When I first started in 2012 I thought I was pretty much the luckiest guy in the world to get the job almost straight after leaving college. Now; however, I am now finding it increasingly difficult to find any sort of motivation or passion for the job and usually just find myself counting down the hours until 5pm.
I am not trying to suggest that the job is to blame for this as I think the real problem is me. In addition to taking me on in the first place, the company has invested money in me by sending me on a pretty expensive course which after 3 attempts I still cannot pass, despite spending a hell of a lot of my own time (as well as work time) studying.
Over the past few months this has started to make me feel like something of a failure as I have let down my employer multiple times because of the aforementioned exam as well as my parents who have allowed me to stay living with them for negligible living costs so I can get my carrier up and running without having to worry about bills etc.
This is making me feel increasingly miserable outside of work and I am starting to loose interest in other aspects of my life. I think the most upsetting part of it is that I left college on a high (worked my ass off and got excellent grades), and in the space of 2 years I have gone from that to being something of a failure.
So, my dilemma is what do I do with my life now? I'm in a pretty awkward position, as I don't feel as though I can continue as I am, my situation will just get worse and worse until I start suffering from real depression. However, I don't really know what other option I have as I'm not really qualified to do anything else, plus I have signed an agreement at work to pay the cost of the course I was sent on should I leave within 2 years. I'm not particularly keen on going back into education as it would mean another 2 years minimum of not earning a real wage and another 2 years of scrounging from my parents. Also, I have worked in a few different types of job now and whilst I have always been hard working, I have never really found anything I am actually good at which is very frustrating.
Or, perhaps the big problem is not actually what's going on with work. Besides biking, I don't really have any interests to pursue outside of my working life which means I will often spend entire evenings pointlessly browsing the internet and not doing anything productive. As well as this, my diet is not brilliant and I don't really do any form of exercise. I eat/drink a ridiculous amount of sugar when I think about it, mostly just because I get bored and don't have much else to do...
Another note which may or may not be relevant is that I have a second job during the weekends so I am currently working seven days a week (saving up for my own place).
If BCF could give some advice on what my best bet might be, it would be massively appreciated
I hope I have adequately described my issues. I know there are many other things I would like to sort out but this is currently my main issue and my thinking is that the majority of other issues I have will slot into place once this is sorted.
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You sound like me and my relationship with accountancy.
Except I passed the exams first time and paid for them out my pocket but it did suck the life out of me. I went mad and went on a long motorbike ride to Japan.
I am still an accountant but on my terms.
Changing course does not mean college or university btw the government want you to think this but its just a ponzi scheme.
Maybe take up a trade become a journey man?
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Can't help with your work problems but if you don't have any hobbies, join a gym, you'll feel better straight away, I feel I have a much clearer head now I'm back in the gym after a 8 month gap. Will give you something to do too.  ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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| -Monty- wrote: |
Or, perhaps the big problem is not actually what's going on with work. Besides biking, I don't really have any interests to pursue outside of my working life which means I will often spend entire evenings pointlessly browsing the internet and not doing anything productive. As well as this, my diet is not brilliant and I don't really do any form of exercise. I eat/drink a ridiculous amount of sugar when I think about it, mostly just because I get bored and don't have much else to do...
Another note which may or may not be relevant is that I have a second job during the weekends so I am currently working seven days a week (saving up for my own place).
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It sounds like you already know what the problem is.
I wouldn't be too hasty to assume you're not cut out for your current job. Maybe it isn't for you, I don't know, but if you enjoyed it at college and were really into it, then maybe it's a matter of your perspective or your general situation.
To me, not being able to pass your course already sounds like a symptom of real depression.
Working 7 days a week and living at home with your parents and the poor diet, the lack of exercise or interests, the stuff you list above all sounds like a guaranteed recipe for depression. You know that Sims game the girls like? If you were a character in that, your character would be depressed.
We need balance in our lives. It helps us recharge, too much or too little of one area and we burn out.
Read back through your post dude, you list everything that's wrong. So... you know... take each thing one by one and do the opposite.  ____________________ Honda CB500S |
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Personally, I wouldn't quit the job just yet. I don't think there are many people who actually enjoy their jobs and genuinely look forward to going to it. I like my job but I am always looking at the clock waiting to go home because there are many other things I much rather do.
Sounds to me like you're just bored. Why don't you try a new hobby; preferably something physical like kick-boxing. When you come back from such activity you will not have the energy to browse the internet pointlessly.
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Thanks for all the replies so far (with the exception of one). To respond to each of you:
| Itchy wrote: | I am still an accountant but on my terms. |
Presumably, on your own terms you mean self employed? This is something that appeals to me; however, I definitely have not got the skills/experience to do this yet.
How did you find it to start with? I would be worried about it being a massive flop and being absolutely broke.
| Itchy wrote: | Changing course does not mean college or university btw the government want you to think this but its just a ponzi scheme. |
I agree that you don't necessarily need a college/university qualification but it does seem hard to find work without it. Besides, there's no way I would get a decent reference from my current place if I were to leave now, and understandably so.
| Clutchy wrote: | Can't help with your work problems but if you don't have any hobbies, join a gym, you'll feel better straight away, I feel I have a much clearer head now I'm back in the gym after a 8 month gap. Will give you something to do too. Thumbs Up |
Yes, this is something I have wanted to get into for a while now, even if just to give me a bit more confidence in myself. I used to do a lot of swimming in my younger years and was actually in reasonably good shape. Looking back on it I think my 16 year old self would beat the sh*t out of my, now 21 year old self
| Bodyguard wrote: | Stop delaying the inevitable and kill yourself. |
Ah, BunnyGuard, I was expecting you.
| The Shaggy D.A. wrote: |
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Haven't really read through this properly yet but will do later on when I get chance, thanks
| Raffles wrote: | It sounds, from your writings, that you may be mentally and physically exhausted. Your situation will not be helped by (and may even be caused by) staying up late trawling porn and shit sites such as this one.
I suggest that you fuckoff to bed a bit earlier.... You'll be amazed how your mental and physical well being changes.
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To be fair, I am normally in bed earlier than last night. That was just an exception as I spent about an hour writing this thread out
| Raffles wrote: | It is also worthy of note that your decline appears to have begun around 2 years ago, which is when you became a member of BCF Thinking |
I actually think BCF has helped me a tremendous amount over the past few months to be honest. I've learnt a lot on here, have met some really decent people and have been on my first bike trip abroad because of BCF. I think I would be even more bored without BCF as my social life would be virtually non-existent (my non-biking friends are not the most exciting group, but they're alright).
| Celt500 wrote: | Working 7 days a week and living at home with your parents and the poor diet, the lack of exercise or interests, the stuff you list above all sounds like a guaranteed recipe for depression. You know that Sims game the girls like? If you were a character in that, your character would be depressed.
We need balance in our lives. It helps us recharge, too much or too little of one area and we burn out. |
I agree that working 7 days a week is not going to be healthy for a long period of time but it is only temporary, probably just for the next month or so.
| Omega wrote: | Try setting yourself a target. |
This is a good shout. As I mentioned in my OP, I am currently saving up to put a deposit down on a house; however, this is a longer term goal (albeit, I am almost there now) and I could definitely do with some short terms ones as well.
| Skudd wrote: | Quite the weekend job, concentrate on your main job. Then you will be able to study properly and retain the information so that you can pass exams. Once you are having some success in your job you will feel better about it, then you will move up the ladder and earn more from your job.
You still live at home.......... you don't need two jobs.......... you don't have worries about putting a roof over your head. I wish I was back to those days. |
As mentioned before, I have the second job to try and speed up the saving process for a mortgage deposit, of which I have now nearly achieved, so the second job is not a permanent thing (although I do agree, working 7 days a week is doing me no favours aside from money).
As well as that, I think getting my own place will, in itself, massively improve my outlook on things as I will actually have some privacy and freedom to do what I want. I expect many of you will say I am somewhat deluded though. ____________________ Present: [Kawasaki ZX7r][Suzuki DRZ 400s]
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In brief:
- Stop eating shit, read around the "getting ripped" thread a few posts down, or just search G's post history, he loves nothing more than posting Teflon Mike style about training and nutrition, I don't agree with all of it, but he's not "wrong" either. So yeah, read stuff, take action, start training, be it weights or some kind of sport/martial art, but just do something.
- Get a hobby, or rather several. They don't have to be, and often aren't, expensive, but whilst the internet is a wonderful thing it really does drain your time and energy insidiously.
- At 21 almost having your target of a house deposit is admirable, so well done. However, mortgages aren't synonymous with freedom to act, career wise. You are less likely to chase your dreams knowing they will take your house away from you. Might be an option to stash the money away somewhere so that once you have your career sorted, you can pick up where you left off.
- Maybe you need to change the way you learn, if you have tried 3 times and you're failing still, you need to determine what the problem is - do you find the material difficult? Is it boring and you have no interest in it? (this makes it very difficult to learn). Being difficult is not an obstacle in itself, you just need to find a better way to absorb the information and be able to recall it and utilize it properly, so you might want to review this and try a different approach.
- But the above is pointless if you don't really want to be in this line of work anymore. And this is the crucial thing. You're 21, and you won't be able to realise this yet due to being young and naive (as any 21yr old is) but you've got every opportunity to make changes now. In 10 years time it will be a lot harder.
So you need to ask yourself what you want to do with the rest of your life. You'll have a good 40-50 years of doing it, so it would be a good idea if you didn't have to drag yourself out of bed every morning to do it. So think. Really fucking think. If you had 3 careers you could pursue, there were no barriers, forget the limitations for a second, ignore what immediately springs to mind to stop you - what would they be? But be realistic - not many people are going to succeed at driving formula 1 cars for a living....
With those 3 (or 5, or whatever) - what would it take to get there? Find out, properly. And then ask yourself seriously, whats stopping you? Fear is normal, its scary to throw yourself into the unfamiliar.
Maybe it involves extra study, maybe even for 2-3 years, and you ain't keen on that. Well so fucking what. You need to think in the long term, yeah the next 2-3 years might suck in terms of social life/money issues/whatever, but if it means the next 10-20 years are spent in a fulfilling place, in terms of happiness and monetary reward, then the payoff is worth the suffering.
Fuck feeling bad for anyone - your current employer (they'll find someone else, they will survive without you) your parents (when they are dead and buried you'll still have plenty of years left to live, would you like them to be happy years or miserable ones?), you can be nice and caring about people once you get where you wanna be. In the meantime you're going to have to be a bit selfish. It's ok, they'll forgive you.
There's little room for fucking up these days, less so when you get older, make the right choices now, stop making excuses and lying to yourself, go out and do what the fuck needs to be done. If at the end of it all, it still doesn't work out, then welcome to life, nothings promised, except that no one can help you if you won't help yourself. But at least by trying, you at least stand a fucking chance of success.
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| Bendy wrote: | Sort of. But you're talking mortgage, which (IMO) at your age gives you the exact opposite of 'freedom'. Rent, share, move around a bit, don't tie yourself down until you need to.
Work-wise you sound like me, I went all-in during my 20s and didn't really do much else. It isn't good for you. |
Well, when I say "freedom" I don't necessarily mean that in the "travel the world/change career etc" kind of way. What I am referring to is just being able to get in every day and have my own space to do what I want to do, when I want to do it. I want to be able to go out without having to tell my parents exactly where I am going and how long I am going to be out for (plus other petty things like this). It probably sounds very pedantic to someone with much bigger things to be worrying about (marrage, kids, bills etc.) but feeling like an actual independent adult means a lot to me.
I am well aware that there is absolutely nothing stopping me from packing my bags tomorrow and moving into rented accommodation. But, to me, renting is like throwing money away (no offense intended to those that do rent) as you will never get that money back.
| GhostRider wrote: | Very useful stuff |
Thanks for that, that is actually one of the most helpful posts I have read on BCF
I didn't really go into it much in my OP (focussed more on the exam failure), but no, the thought of working in this line of work for the remainder of my working life is rather depressing.
Most of the reason for me swaying more on the "stay doing what I'm doing" side is down to being reluctant to make the change. For a 21 year old, my decisions are massively influenced by what my parents think is best for me (you may have caught onto that), and every time I bring the subject of a career change up with them, they are adamant that my current job is the very best I can hope for until I have more experience.
Perhaps they are right, maybe I should try and get more experience under my belt and a decent reference before making a change. Or perhaps that is an enormous waste of time if I'm going to pursue something different anyway.
I will do as you suggest and come up with a short list of other possibilities and research what would be required for each one.
Thank-you again
| Tungtvann wrote: | I'm combatting this by trying to get qualifications in a field that'll allow me to enter at a level which pays far more than I'm on now. |
Out of interest, how are you going about getting these qualifications whilst also working full time? (this is, of course, presuming you are currently working full time). ____________________ Present: [Kawasaki ZX7r][Suzuki DRZ 400s]
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Why not consider Working Visa's and fook off around the world and gain experience in your field by working different projects in different countries. I bet there's plenty projects out there waiting for you...
And while you're out and about, look out for designs you like, take photos of them, build up your scrapbook...
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| Clanger wrote: | You are young, you should be out there living your life...go do it, while you can / not limited by age.  |
This, times a million. I'm 34, been doing (pretty much) the same job since I was 19. I don't really want to do it anymore, but I am so dependant on the wage that I can't just walk away and do something else. Before you are paying rent, bills, insurance etc... find out what you want to do and do it whilst you have that freedom. You might not see it, but right now? You do have freedom. ____________________ thx1138 wrote: Well if you had a car, I'd bet it would smell like urine had had drunken sex with vomit and made a poo baby.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 261 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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