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Cadbury
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: First accident - filtering (edit) resolved. Reply with quote

Hi all, had my first minor bump today on the way home, filtering on the motorway through very slow moving traffic, and I have no idea how to proceed.

In middle lane, see traffic has slowed, shoulder check, move in between 1&2, pass one car, and as i do there is another car pulling into lane one, I hit the brakes but don't quite stop in time, we collide (my fairing, his read quarter) Damage to my bike is virtually nothing - scuffed off an inch of paint on my fairing, his car has a dent and paint transfer.

I have it on helmet cam, he did have his indicator on, I was doing maybe 35 or so when I reacted, maybe 5mph at point of impact. The word 'filtering' was alien to him.

What on earth do I do? Do I contact my insurance? a specialist motorcycle lawyer? or just wait for his insurer to contact mine?
If anyone has had a similar accident what can I expect? 50/50 at best?
Thanks in advance for you advice.


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PostPosted: 18:56 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your fault, poor obs. Never filter past an open gap.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put helmet cam footage up...
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad obs, so you overtook on the inside while someone has their indicator on?
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Put helmet cam footage up...
Just trying to cut out the rest of the 35 minute journey, my mac is taking forever to import it into imovie...

I'm so cross with myself, watching it back I had space to move (i.e. where he was pulling into) I just didn't, and whilst his indicator wasn't that clear, it was on. SQL - I suppose when you put it like that, yes. A journey I've done twice a day for 3 years. Pretty stupid really Sad
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filtering at 35 mph is two fast. your at fault
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloggsy wrote:
Filtering at 35 mph is two fast. your at fault


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PostPosted: 19:22 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Re: First accident - filtering - no idea where to start. Reply with quote

Stuff happens, no kittens were harmed.

CadillacMoon wrote:
Damage to my bike is virtually nothing - scuffed off an inch of paint on my fairing, his car has a dent and paint transfer.

I'm not saying that you're completely at fault, but it's something that you might consider saying.

Because if any blame goes towards you then you'll have an "at fault" accident to declare for the next 5 years. From what you've said, I can't imagine that it'll be no-faulted.

So if your damage is minimal, then you could be the bigger man and say "Look, it was totally my fault, I was going too fast, he did indicate, I didn't give him enough time to see me, I didn't react quickly enough, I ran into the back of him. Sort the chap out, please."

No sense in both of you getting nobbed by the Insurance Cartel, right?
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removed the video - issue resolved amicably.

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PostPosted: 19:35 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CadillacMoon wrote:
Here's the clip

A combination of iMovie and YouTube have compressed it into a potato. But you get the gist.

https://youtu.be/IUig-J31C80

Feeling glum Sad

I'd suggest you remove that, way too fast for conditions IMO, it looks like you accelerated as the traffic slowed. Shocked

That video does you no favours at all, lose it!
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that filtering ? or weaving in and out of traffic at speed ? seems like your situation was waiting to happen with all that space around and cars looking for the faster lanes...
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wotsthestory wrote:
I'd suggest you remove that, way too fast for conditions IMO, it looks like you accelerated as the traffic slowed. Shocked

Oh, see now I have to see it.

If it's not fit to be shown, please do give serious consideration to manning up and taking it on the chin.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

caught it before it disappeared and
agree about 'losing it'
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are people's thoughts about settling outside of insurance? Am I better to take the hit for the next 5 years, or get him to get a quote and pay for the repair work myself?
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

pay it yourself, I wanna see the video Sad
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CadillacMoon wrote:
What are people's thoughts about settling outside of insurance? Am I better to take the hit for the next 5 years, or get him to get a quote and pay for the repair work myself?
It's a new Merc, I wouldn't fancy my chances. If it was something else, rent-a-dent or whatever they call themselves might cure it for £50. My guess is, that won't cut it.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sit tight, do nothing, just wait - he might decide the dent is nothing and won't bother with it. If you're lucky. Idea
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Sit tight, do nothing, just wait - he might decide the dent is nothing and won't bother with it. If you're lucky. Idea


Was a silver 10 plate passat, my bike is gold - paint transfer down the passenger rear arch. Ahh well, could have been worse I suppose.


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PostPosted: 20:24 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that was... Interesting.

Called the guy for a chat, saying I'd be happy for him to get a quote, and I'll see if I can pay it out of pocket. He said after calming down (he was a bit irate at the roadside) and giving things a once over, he said he isn't going to pursue it though insurance and didn't want me to pay anything. He was a nice chap and pretty apologetic really

Time will tell I suppose, but he did actually sound genuine. Is there a 'statute of limitations' on insurance claiming for things?
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you Send him a nice friendly letter
apologising for the wee bump and saying hope we dont have to
get official and all, bloody paperwork eh?
sure we can sort this amicably etc etc
Compliment him by saying what nice kids he has and how you know what school they go to and what a pity it would be if something should happen to them
You read such terrible things in the papers nowadays.........

You know, stuff like that
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what others have said, sounds like you're quite lucky then.

Although I do now really want to see the video.

You should man up and re-upload it...
it could prevent someone else making a similar error etc
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't upload it as unlisted and pm the link Whistle
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the clear, reupload it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloggsy wrote:
Filtering at 35 mph is two fast. your at fault


Silence


definitely one fast, not sure about two fast
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 06 Aug 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a result, huzzah for good old fashioned civilised decency. Thumbs Up

Thread useless without video.
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