Fogging on top of pinlock

[SteveSmith]

Hi, I've tried searching for this but can't find anything similar so sorry if this has been done before.

I have a Shoei GT-Air with a pinlock insert, bought new this September. In cold or wet weather it fogs up in a specific spot, at the bottom of the pinlock under my right eye, then spreads out from there.

I've had it before where they fog up between the pinlock and the visor, and solved that by tightening it up. This time though it's fogging on the surface of the pinlock itself - you can wipe it off with a finger.

Any ideas on how to stop it? Is there some sort of treatment or maintenance that I need to do on the pinlock?

Thanks,

Steve.

[stinkwheel]

I too thought I had this problem. I tore off and threw my insert away while travelling along the A1 one winters night, (about 35 miles after having bought it fitted to a brand new visor) as it was making things worse to the point I couldn't see with oncoming traffic in the dark

Apparently I was imagining it because pinlock inserts are the best thing ever invented and work infallably all the time. I must have been breathing wrong or something.
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[Kierran]

Mines does the same after 2 years of use. I just removed it wiped it down with a dry cloth, left it to dry out. I then gave the visor a good clean then put them back together and re tightened the two bolts. Not had a problem since
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[_Iain_]

If it's externally fogging then I belive they're coated with the same sort of anti fog layer that you find on a normal visor. In which case, remove, warm water to clean it and it'll likely sort it. If it doesn't I'd consider replacement or application of a fog spray - Bob Heath stuff in pump form (not aerosol) is superb.

Internal fogging is due to seal leaking and usually fixed by adjustment & cleaning.

I do however think it's pretty foolish to have a temper tantrum and throw one away then have a rage on the internet because of such things. They are after all an item that'll cost as much as £40 so surely worth at least attempting a fix as they may have been wrongly installed by the seller, and manufacturing defects do happen with pretty much anything.
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[Knacker]

Not sure if it's just a Shoei thing but my Arai pinlock has been on for 5 years and never had an issue.

I'd imagine its just fitted incorrectly.
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[stinkwheel]

Sold as not fogging up. Fogged up within 30 minutes of trying it. Can't see where the fuck I'm going at 100mph on a motorway. GTFO expensive bit of crappy plastic.

Motorcycle visors and all accessories to do with them must be the least fit for purpose products ever invented. They only work for the purposes of seeing out while not being battered in the face by objects/droplets/cold when none of those things are present.

I've spent more money that I'd care to think of on visors, inserts, gloops, potions and sprays that profess to stop fogging over the years. None perform any better than wiping spit on the inside, which is something that works only marginally better than nothing at all.

The only thing I've seen that works is an electrically heated snowmobile visor which is a) Not road legal and b) Not sold in the UK .

I just wear safety glasses and ride with the visor permanantly cracked open these days
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[esullivan]

[fatjames]

I've only been riding a few years but have never had an issue with pinlock inserts. I heard a while ago that they do expire and need replacing, but none of mine have ever needed replacing due to wear.

Have a really good look at it and clean it. As said, let it dry properly. Is it scratched or anything like that?

[Llama-Farmer]

I have a similar problem on my pinlock and usually take it out, clean with visor cleaner and it is fine again for a few days use.

It really absolutely doesn't fit the visor properly though. It's an LS2 helmet. And no matter how the pins are adjusted, the pinlock will not make a complete seal around the visor, it seals up 90% of it but theres always a gap of about 1-2cm in the middle, either at the top or bottom.

I guess thats what happens with cheap helmets though, not ever had a problem with a Shoei, AGV or HJC.
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[chris-red]

It's because it needs adjusting I'm with Iain on this. If it is adjusted correctly and sealed all the way round it will not do what you describe.

Stinkwheel, you could have fixed that issue in less than 5 minutes and with no tools. throwing it away is like scraping a bike because you have to adjust the chain. You just have to adjust the posts and make sure the seal is made all the way round. Every now and then I have to do it again but it is no bother. I've had many pinlocks on 3 different helmets, I think I have replaced 2 in about 7 years because they seemed to have worn out (seals gone).
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[iooi]

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[esullivan]

[stinkwheel]

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[Dave70]

Personally, I wouldn't be without a pinlock at this time of year.

I've tried a few other "gadgets" from anti-fog sprays, washing up liquid and some other thing that sticks onto your visor, that I can't remember the name of right now. All had varying degrees of success but, none of them came close to being as good as the pinlock.

Sometimes, when it's particularly cold, I can experience a little bit of misting at the very bottom of the visor/pinlock but, nothing that impairs my vision, as it's below my line of sight.
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[Llama-Farmer]

[Nash GT]

I've had a similar problem with my scorpion helmet, 1months old shop fitted the pin lock for me, if fogs up in the wet an cold.
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[SteveSmith]

[RedPanda]

Until this thread I didn’t even know what a pinlock visor was, turns out my AGV came with one. My ride into work was a lot easier today so thanks for that.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Had pinlocks in three different helmets and ham fistedly fitted a fair few in my time. Never had an issues with them. They've worked amazingly well for me. Maybe I have the magic touch?
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