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bikertomm
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: De-restricting a Honda Hornet CB600 2007? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a Honda Hornet 07' that has been restricted since I bought it to 33BHP.

Soon enough, I will legally be able to take this off. Been waiting for this day for 5 years now... Drooling

All I really know is that It's a throttle stop restriction - I have limited movement on the throttle - Is that literally it?

I wanted to find out some more info, if anyone has ever come across taking one off before on a Hornet?

So far what I've found is that the tank needs to come off and I quote;

'you need to lift tank, disconnect the throttle cables and unscrew the metal plate then take it off and put the cables back on. Bit of a ball ache as space is tight.'

A plate on the side of a throttle body.

I think this may well be too much for myself (Jivebunny skillz yo) but if I can at least get an idea I can take it to someone and provide some insight! Laughing

Unless anyone capable wants some money? Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:02 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where abouts are you, maybe someone close could take a peak
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Bucks buddy,

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably not that difficult, the hard part (as mentioned) will be access, because it's going to be fiddly little nuts, buried somewhere that's just out of reach, probably hard up against some other component so it only comes out a certain way.

Take the tank off, get a good torch and post some quality pictures, I bet you can be talked through it.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tank off, then air box off.
Remove the carb / throttle body from the rubbers ( leave the rubbers on the engine)
You should see big washers similar to these
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/david_m213/zzrrestriction.jpg

Yank em out.......
Not literally you'll damage the rubbers, probably have to undo the rubbers from engine and take them out of then put rubbers back

After having a good google at new kits for the 07 hornet - i do not believe the jetting is changed when fitted so that should be job done.

Carb back, air box back on, tank back on - new undies first time you forget and "launch" off the lights Wink
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those washer aren't throttle stops. Laughing

The throttle stop that was on my 33bhp TL1000R was a part that was changed so the original part was needed for derestricting it.

Do you know if it's an FI International kit or something else? If it's FI International then you might be able to find the fitting instructions somewhere online. The place I got mine fitted gave me the standard part back and the fitting instructions.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP thinks it's a throttle stop restriction, not constrictor washers.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Those washer aren't throttle stops. Laughing

The throttle stop that was on my 33bhp TL1000R was a part that was changed so the original part was needed for derestricting it.

Do you know if it's an FI International kit or something else? If it's FI International then you might be able to find the fitting instructions somewhere online. The place I got mine fitted gave me the standard part back and the fitting instructions.


I read it as "plates inside the throttle body", so thought he meant restriction washers Embarassed

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PostPosted: 23:34 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have fun. That Hornet is a cunt stick to work on. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How hard can it be Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 12 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
How hard can it be Shocked


Under the tank is absolutely everything... genuinely.

No room to move or anything Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a typical modern bike to me.

I'd have a go at fixing the OP's Hornet, but only if he brings it to me, so I've got every tool available.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Shaft wrote:
How hard can it be Shocked


Under the tank is absolutely everything... genuinely.

No room to move or anything Thumbs Down

Paddy is correct, the older ones where a nightmare to restrict!
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste, yes it is an FI international one, I have the certificate etc from the previous owner.

I tried Emailing FI international but not a response. Don't think they are interested unless they are making money..

Thanks for inspiring confidence Paddy Laughing

And thanks for the offer Shaft.

I spoke to a local mechanic and he seemed to know the deal, he reckoned a couple hours labour and around £100.

We shall see, keep the tips coming!!

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PostPosted: 23:59 - 15 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fi are no more. They are now part of BLD group.
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
Fi are no more. They are now part of BLD group.

Bleh, the money grabbing whores have been absorbed/bought out by even worse money grabbing whores. Bleh! Sick

I repeat... bleh!!! Sick Sick
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda would supply a restriction kit if bought new....and they would give you the std full power option parts....with the Honda kit it was the same idea of restriction washers on the inlet rubbers...however you just changed the whole inlet rubbers for the unrestricted items! That's a pretty simple job on the hornet tbh.....interestingly Honda also supplied a different CDI for the restriction kit along with different key .......I'd guess the restriction kit you've got fitted should be a removable stop on the throttle body which has got to be a 15 min job to remove!
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open up the throttle assembly and see if anything is there
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FI bikes are restricted by throttle stop or ECU
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bladerunner wrote:
I'd guess the restriction kit you've got fitted should be a removable stop on the throttle body which has got to be a 15 min job to remove!


You would guess.

However, lift the tank, remove half the wiring loom, pipes and a lot more, just to remove the airbox.

Then remove all the remaining guff to access the TB's.

I would say, DIY, easily over an hour. I derestricted a GSXR750WN in 10 minutes... Laughing So the Hornet is up there in my "fuck that" job list.
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 16 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conzar wrote:
FI bikes are restricted by throttle stop or ECU

Expect when they're restricted by washers. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 20 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed FI kits can be intake washers, throttle stops and exhaust washers (rare), or (very rarely) a combination of intake washers and throttle stop
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 20 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
Indeed FI kits can be intake washers, throttle stops and exhaust washers (rare), or (very rarely) a combination of intake washers and throttle stop


Don't forget on the Yamaha R6 5EB they can also be washers in the intake and spacers in the diaphragm slides! Wink
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 23 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS Paddy I bet this turns out you are right and there will be plenty of effin' and blinding on the day.

Will try to make sure I get a price before hand, incase it turns into a 4+ hour jobby..

2 and a bit months Mr. Green

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