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PostPosted: 15:45 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

Hi guys, I have a 2002 Honda CG 125, and it won't rev at all. The bike starts and idle's no problem and it doesn't cut out when you try to give it throttle. It has a brand new throttle cable and a brand new needle assembly, everything works as it should, the throttle moves the slide up and down, the fuel is getting through.
If you have any ideas then I would be greatful! Thanks!
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Water in fuel, too lean mixture (no air filter fitted?), or too rich mixture (clogged air filter, stuck choke?).
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="RhynoCZ"]Water in fuel, too lean mixture (no air filter fitted?), or too rich mixture (clogged air filter, stuck choke?).[/quote]

Thank you, I do have quite a bit of water in my fuel. The guy I brought it off as new fuel cap put in the left if you come off during the winter so I'd presume that quite a bit of water maybe in there. Will have a look thanks!
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drain the carburetor and tank, let the tank to dry out. You're might gonna have to take the carburetor bowl off, to clean any crud and white residue. Water reacts with the aditives in modern petrol and creates slime that clogs the jet/s. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

ryanwilson1905 wrote:
it won't rev at all.

At all? No change in revs whatsoever?

ryanwilson1905 wrote:
it doesn't cut out when you try to give it throttle.

What does it do?

ryanwilson1905 wrote:
It has a brand new throttle cable and a brand new needle assembly

Why?

How fast is it idling?
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

[quote="Rogerborg"][quote="ryanwilson1905"]it won't rev at all.[/quote]
At [i]all[/i]? No change in revs whatsoever?

[quote="ryanwilson1905"]it doesn't cut out when you try to give it throttle.[/quote]
What does it do?

[quote="ryanwilson1905"]It has a brand new throttle cable and a brand new needle assembly[/quote]
Why?

How fast is it idling?[/quote]

No not at all! -- exactly that nothing -- and new cable because the old one was snapped and the guy I bought it off wedged the top of the carb in and bent the needle -- and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="RhynoCZ"]Drain the carburetor and tank, let the tank to dry out. You're might gonna have to take the carburetor bowl off, to clean any crud and white residue. Water reacts with the aditives in modern petrol and creates slime that clogs the jet/s. Thumbs Up[/quote]

Thanks mate will do!
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

ryanwilson1905 wrote:


No not at all! -- exactly that nothing -- and new cable because the old one was snapped and the guy I bought it off wedged the top of the carb in and bent the needle -- and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle



...Completely fucking buggered main fuel jet then maybe? (the needle sits in the jet, if some twat bashed the needle in, I can't see the jet surviving) Thinking
I would be thinking new carb at this point, they're cheap as chips and who knows what the previous owners (twats) have done to it other than the visible.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

ryanwilson1905 wrote:
and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle


That is a rather fast idle.... and you should change it without the twist-grip.

There is a screw on the side that adjusts the height that the throttle slide 'stops'... you wind that 'out' and the slide should drop to get the idle speed down to between 800 & 1000rom at tick-over.

But to start with this simple/stupid first... the choke is 'off', isn't it?

Most motors wont rev-up with the choke 'on'.. and it makes them idle high..... not that high, usually, but higher than 800-1000rpm.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the slide dropping right down and seating properly with the throttle closed?
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Most motors wont rev-up with the choke 'on'.. and it makes them idle high..... not that high, usually, but higher than 800-1000rpm.

I thought carbed bike engines generally stalled if the choke was on and you tried to rev them...
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
ryanwilson1905 wrote:
and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle


That is a rather fast idle.... and you should change it without the twist-grip.

There is a screw on the side that adjusts the height that the throttle slide 'stops'... you wind that 'out' and the slide should drop to get the idle speed down to between 800 & 1000rom at tick-over.

But to start with this simple/stupid first... the choke is 'off', isn't it?

Most motors wont rev-up with the choke 'on'.. and it makes them idle high..... not that high, usually, but higher than 800-1000rpm.


I thought Haynes CG idle was 1100rpm? Neither here nor there though I guess if hes running at 3k. Very Happy

To be fair though, my CG idle never changed from half choke until stalling, and wouldn't idle at all on full choke.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

[quote="Commuter_Tim"][quote="ryanwilson1905"]

No not at all! -- exactly that nothing -- and new cable because the old one was snapped and the guy I bought it off wedged the top of the carb in and [i][b]bent the needle[/b][/i] -- and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle[/quote]


...Completely fucking buggered main fuel jet then maybe? (the needle sits in the jet, if some twat bashed the needle in, I can't see the jet surviving) Thinking
I would be thinking new carb at this point, they're cheap as chips and who knows what the previous owners (twats) have done to it other than the visible.[/quote]

Alright thanks mate was looking at getting another carb soon anyway so hopefully that's the problem
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 07 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: My bike won't rev up at all! Reply with quote

[quote="Teflon-Mike"][quote="ryanwilson1905"] and it is idling at about 2500 - 3000 rpm but I can't change it without a throttle[/quote]

That is a rather fast idle.... and you should change it without the twist-grip.

There is a screw on the side that adjusts the height that the throttle slide 'stops'... you wind that 'out' and the slide should drop to get the idle speed down to between 800 & 1000rom at tick-over.

But to start with this simple/stupid first... the choke is 'off', isn't it?

Most motors wont rev-up with the choke 'on'.. and it makes them idle high..... not that high, usually, but higher than 800-1000rpm.[/quote]

In answer to your question yes the come is off, and thank you well sort that out! Thumbs Up
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