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Immoans
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Hyosung GT 125 R 2007 - Advice Urgently Required. Reply with quote

So I recently purchased this Hyosung GT 125 R 2007,

The previous owner suggested I replaced the spark plugs and Oil as it had been sat for a while with little use,

Anyway I drove the bike approx 400 miles before doing so and the bike was absolutely fine, no issues what's so ever, so 2 weeks ago I got the plugs changed to Iridium Plugs, then I started to encounter an issue where I was driving along around 70-80MPH and the bike would start to lose power and slow right down, sometimes to 10MPH whilst being on a very busy A road.

It did not happen that much but enough to be a problem, so the following weekend my friend checked the carb and it was fine, so I changed the oil to this stuff: Petronas Syntium 800 EU 10W-40 Oil 5L

On the day that I changed the oil I was driving home 45 miles and half way the bike decided to slow down to 0 MPH again but this time it decided it would not go past 20MPH and has not since then.

Any idea's please? I really need my bike working so I can get to work and to see my daughter who is back in my home town.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so put the old plug back in and see how that goes? What's the numbers on the original plug and the one you swapped it with?
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: plugs Reply with quote

Not too sure mate as I think we threw them away.
but we tried swapping the plugs around but did not make any difference.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: plugs Reply with quote

Well, IMHO, if you change something and it DOESN'T work, change it back. Do not change anything else.

Having a bike that worked for 400 miles, changing the plugs, noticing a problem, then changing a carb, would seem to be 'a bit dippy'.

Check the plug is the right one for the engine. If the book doesn't say Iridum, don't put one in, no matter what the spotty fella at Halfords tells you.

Check to see if problem goes away. If not, put the original carb back on.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The carb has not been changed, my friend just checked it to make sure it had no crap inside of it.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immoans wrote:
The carb has not been changed, my friend just checked it to make sure it had no crap inside of it.

Ah, sorry I read that wrong. Didn't change any screw settings, then?
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope none mate.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check you're getting a spark and the fuel is flowing and go from there.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike starts with no issues,

I will however mention that when trying the sparks plugs in both the heads, both spark plugs started on the front head but would not start only on the rear head.

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PostPosted: 19:42 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a GT125R brand new in 2007 for when I passed my cbt. Worst bike ever, heap of shite. Not much help but some rags doused in petrol, a match and blow the fucker up is the best advice I can give. Mind you shite doesn't burn.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem was bud, I got ran off the road on my CBR and it was wrecked, and I needed a new reliable bike, a mechanic told me they are reliable so I bought it for £700, I needed something reliable to get to work (25 miles away) and to see my daughter who is sick in hospital (50 miles away)

and now the thing won't go above 20/25mph =\
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said this, from personal experience with a carb'd fireblade, carbs and iridium plugs do not mix. My fireblade lasted about 20 miles before going back to the WELL USED plugs and running much better.

A well respected friend disagrees with the above, but I'm going on my experience.

They work great in modern FI bikes, don't seem to like carb'd bikes. Get some standard plugs in there ASAP and go from there.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok mate I'll get him to do that for me.

Do you know if it's normal for the rear head not to start without the front ? but the front starts without the rear.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what you're saying about front and rear "heads".

Don't even think of touching the carb yet.

Is it running on both cylinders? Run it as hard as it'll go, then check (carefully) if both exhaust are hot.

Get the plugs out, see what colour the tips are, and if either is wet with unburnt fuel.

The HT caps melt when they get hot, take a look at them when you get the plugs out, and check for continuity (£5 multimeter, don't just guess).

It's probably not relevant, but that oil you put in it is way too techno, and it may cause clutch slip (i.e. it revs but doesn't accelerate). The cheapest 10W40 from Tesco will be fine in that engine.

Aside, the 2006 one that I worked on ("been standing for a bit, just needs a good run") was a complete dog and a money pit. While you're looking at yours, check that the swinging arm isn't rotting out in the centre.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure, I'll get him to check that.

He did mention he thought one of the head's was not working if that's what your referring too.

but before we changed the plugs I had no issues with the bike whatsoever.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 27 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the bright side, it's possible that you just have a loose plug cap after changing the plugs. But it's not something that can be diagnosed from those symptoms, you will have to get in there and test the continuity and spark on each plug.
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the revs continue to rise even when it hits the brick wall at 20mph?
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Do the revs continue to rise even when it hits the brick wall at 20mph?

You thinking clutch slip? Possibly, but I'd have expected OP to mention that. I'd expect he's dropped a cylinder instead due to a rogue plug or cap, but I'm prepared to be surprised.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
tom_e wrote:
Do the revs continue to rise even when it hits the brick wall at 20mph?

You thinking clutch slip? Possibly, but I'd have expected OP to mention that. I'd expect he's dropped a cylinder instead due to a rogue plug or cap, but I'm prepared to be surprised.


Yep, your comment about the oil made me think it's a possibility.
Like you said it's probably not but it's an easy enough one to rule out.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

where did the plugs come from not an ebay copy is it
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as an aside - that looks like a car oil you used. Don't use car oil - it often contains additives that can cause clutch slip on a bike, as most bikes have 'wet' clutches unlike a car. If you are going to use car oil get a really basic one. This is probably not the cause of the problem - unless the clutch is slipping as described above.

I agree that iridium plugs are not necessary on such a bike. Get the correct plugs as dictated by the manual and swap them back. Get the plugs from somewhere reputable also.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

meggark wrote:
Just as an aside - that looks like a car oil you used. Don't use car oil - it often contains additives that can cause clutch slip on a bike, as most bikes have 'wet' clutches unlike a car. If you are going to use car oil get a really basic one. This is probably not the cause of the problem - unless the clutch is slipping as described above.


Everyone keeps saying this but I chuck the cheapest semi-synthetic oil I can get in the 'exxon valdez' without regard for the additives. To date the exup still doesn't have a slipping clutch.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
meggark wrote:
Just as an aside - that looks like a car oil you used. Don't use car oil - it often contains additives that can cause clutch slip on a bike, as most bikes have 'wet' clutches unlike a car. If you are going to use car oil get a really basic one. This is probably not the cause of the problem - unless the clutch is slipping as described above.


Everyone keeps saying this but I chuck the cheapest semi-synthetic oil I can get in the 'exxon valdez' without regard for the additives. To date the exup still doesn't have a slipping clutch.


And yet some bikes will get clutch slip with the smallest sniff of car oil, it's a case of suck it and see or just buy cheap bike oil and avoid any gambling.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:

And yet some bikes will get clutch slip with the smallest sniff of car oil, it's a case of suck it and see or just buy cheap bike oil and avoid any gambling.


Alternatively, you could put some quality clutch plates in rather than the cheap shite.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Hyosung GT 125 R 2007 - Advice Urgently Required. Reply with quote

Immoans wrote:
So I recently purchased this Hyosung GT 125 R 2007,
Yadda yadda yak yak yak, stuff.
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I have a Hyosung and have no problems with reliability.
I keep mine bog standard apart from the rear hugger.

The only times my Hyosung has ever let me down was after a rainstorm from God Shocked when the electrics popped and banged for 50/60 miles before they sorted themselves out.
And when the side stand switch misbehaved.
That had similar symptoms to what you said above??? Confused I disconnected it and put a fused loop in (very simple) and problem solved.

I have heard elsewhere that iridium plugs in a Hyosung can be problematic.
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