scottoilers

[talkToTheHat]

So it's time to consider a scottoiler for my gsf600s k2.

Is it worth going for the E system over the vacuum operated one, how much temperature related messing about is required on a standard v system to keep flow rate sane?

Is the dual injector worth it?

Anything else i shold consider before ordering? Anywhere that giz discaant coz bcf innit works?
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[BrownTrousers]

Am also considering this and interested in replies.

Dual injector being offered for free with V system on sportsbikeshop.com currently.
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[c_dug]

I swore by shaft drives, but that limits bike choice quite considerably. When I bought my vfr, one of the criteria in choosing a bike was that it came with a Scottoiler.

I've not bothered filling it up in probably 4 months now, maybe longer. Mines a single outlet, which in my experience is definitely not adequate. A twin might be better, but for piece of mind and better flexibility I'd stick with oiling by hand.

I'm going to sort myself out a squirty oil tin with some left over shaft/gearbox oil in it, I think this will be the best solution of all to be honest.
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[Polarbear]

When they are set up properly they are brilliant.

Wifey had one on her Divvy 600 which took me ages to get right but that was many moons ago, I'm sure they are better now.

I would go electronic because it's easier to run a wire then to drill and tap a hole in a manifold. (If you have already got a hole )

I have no idea about the twin feed but would expect it to be better or why would they bother making it.
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[linuxyeti]

Hi

I've put one of these on my CF650TR, and have another ready to put on another bike ..

https://www.tutorochainoiler.com/collections/frontpage

It gets really good reviews, no need to splice it in with the electrics, or carb. No mod to the bike itself required. Plus, it's considerably cheaper that a scottoiler.

Seems to work well, only difference being, I'm going to add the twin feed nozel. Oh, and I'm using some spare gear oil I had lying around, which feed through well.

Cheers

Tony
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[barrkel]

I fitted an e version to my ER6f while my VFR came with a vacuum operated valve version already fitted.

The single biggest problem with the vacuum version is that you need to adjust the flow rate depending on the ambient temperature. If you're living in the UK, the temperature range during the day usually isn't too large so it isn't a big problem. But many times when touring, I've had to slowly adjust the rate upwards to get some oil flowing on a motorway trip, and then find out it's entirely emptied its contents once you've gone over a mountain pass into different climate on the other side.

The e system is more expensive, but it's worth it if you tour. If you're staying in the UK and don't expect big temperature swings, then the v system may be enough.

(I used the dual nozzle on my ER6. The one that came fitted to my VFR is a single nozzle set to splash on the inside of the chain. It's definitely sufficient to oil not just my chain, but also my swingarm and rear caliper. I'd much rather a dual nozzle skimming the surface of the rear sprocket, but the VFR doesn't have a rear sprocket well shaped for this, what with the single sided swingarm.)
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[Ribenapigeon]

I've come to the conclusion your better lubing the chain yourself manually as its a good opportunity to check the chain, sprockets and rear wheel and brake. Oilers are bloody expensive as well.

[barrkel]

[davebike]

Vacuum system is best value fro money notably if fitted in the touring kit form
Touring kit last 2k + miles so less lightly to run out
Fitted behind the rear no plate meets the mounting conditions AS near vertical as possible (will work on side but much less reliable ) away from heat and vibration

I been using and selling Scotoilers fro 20 years I would not own a chain driven bike without one or another auto oiler
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[MCN]

I fitted a vac system to an 09 er6f and an E sys. to my S1000RR. No issues.

The E-sys on the S1000RR is concealed in the tail. Only thing visble is the nib and the control panel. I fitted the lubetube too as I have to open the tail to fill so I now fill about once a year. The control panel has a meter to tell how much is left in the system.

If you fit a scottoiler and store the bike unused for a while you should clean the chain and give it a wipe over with a scottoiler soaked rag. This is a sort of standard service item for open gear/chain/rope systems and a recommendation from Scottoiler.
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[Islander]

Have a look at the PDOiler as well. It has an electronic delivery system and uses a wick rather than a nib to deliver the oil to the chain. Works well and isn't that expensive in the scheme of things.

I have a vacuum Scotoiler on my Hornet and a PDOiler on my M900. Both work well and are not too difficult to set up - the PDOiler is a bit easier to fit and set up.

You still need to check chain and sprockers periodically, and you'll need to clean them from time to time too but nowhere near as frequently as with a manually lubed chain.

[Ribenapigeon]

[linuxyeti]

[Matt B]

[chris-red]

The dual sided injector is fucking awful, stick with the single.
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[temeluchus]

The cheap loobman also does the job.

I have a chameleon oiler on the GSXR which is also a good bit of kit.
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[monkeybiker]

[redeem ouzzer]

Remember vac systems can fuck up the carburation on some bikes as you are robbing vacuum used to lift carb slides for operating the oiler valve.
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[Islander]

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[Pigeon]

Not heard of PDOiler before, thanks Islander. Am very tempted.

I don't mind lubing my chain, do it once a week or every 150 miles.

When out on a jolly, carry a 2x2x13(ish) block of wood and a can of lube. 30 seconds to jack the bike under swingarm, spin the wheel while spraying lube everywhere.

On the plus side, I adjust chain tension every 3k miles by the width of a Rizla.

On the downside, I coat the rear wheel in lube all the time, the underside of the bike is coated. But most importantly, I spend fortunes on lube.

Probably in a year (10k miles)
1.5L of 80w90 Gear Oil
5 cans of chain wax
5 cans of dry lube

That's around £110 on lube

I just cant be trusted to use the right amount. PDOiler is 1/3 the cost of equivalent Scottoiler. Will do some reading now, but think I'm getting one

[MCN]

[ADSrox0r]

The only 'bad' thing I've had happen with a Scottoiler is the vacuum tube slip out of the t-piece regulator valve where I'd spliced it in. Ran like shit for a while till I realised the tank had pushed it off the last time I had it up.

I had one get gunked up with white jizz at the bottom of the reservoir too, fuck knows what that was about but I can tell you they're not meant to be disassembled. Nope.
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[talkToTheHat]

Last bike was shaft drive. Before that i had 125s and didn't do that many miles.

Bandit has vacuum fuel tap and extra vacuum nipples for carb balancing so no concerns about fitting a vacuum system.

I don't do abroad or more than a tank of fuel in a day. Just losts of short trips on british roads and the odd long trip.

The white jizz is likely water/oil emulsion.

I quite like the look of the pdoiler. One knob over an lcd screen i have to mount. I'm not sure i like the wick system, i wonder whether if it does not work for me I could get a scottoiler dual injector linked up to one.

turtoro auto involves least messing about, but I assume it needs adjusting just as much as a v-system?

Time is quite valuable to me, physical effort more so. For all that I do becasue i refuse to let M.E. stop me, the less time i can spend bending over the bike on trivial things, the more productive things i can do. Anything that is a net labor saver is a win.
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[temeluchus]

The tutoro auto does work fine. If you go for it, my advice is do not bother trying to use the single or dual feed heads as they often clog or get eaten by the chain if not adjusted 100%

Position the delivery hose so the end is about an inch in front of the sprocket and dripping onto the rollers. This is the least fuss and the least human intervention needed.

along the lines of

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dvM4HShwGd0/hqdefault.jpg


Adjusting the unit is just by a simple dial, you just tweak the knob until the chain is sufficiently oily.
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