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| Bru wrote: | Hi.
MOT inspector can check the engine number against the V5, and call you on it. This leads to a VOSA inspection, before the V5 can be updated and the bike made legit. This happened to me several years ago. The good old days of just submitting a change form to the DVLA are over. |
Nope.
Engine number does not form part of the MOT test, we don't look at it, compare it, or report it, it's not on the radar in any way.
The only numbers we are interested in are the VIN and the index and there are circumstances where a vehicle can be tested with no number plate, so then it's just the VIN we look at.
If you had a problem with a number, it would be the VIN either being illegible, or partially/totally missing.
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| Shaft wrote: | If you had a problem with a number, it would be the VIN either being illegible, or partially/totally missing. |
As a matter of interest, what happens, if on an older bike, with the VIN stamped into the frame, if the number has deteriorated and has become unreadable, can you have it, officially, reinstated?
The reason I ask is, on my 30+ year old traillie the frame has been powder coated, I had to scrape this away to reveal the VIN, which is not pristine because the frame had been blasted before the powder coating.
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | Shaft wrote: | If you had a problem with a number, it would be the VIN either being illegible, or partially/totally missing. |
As a matter of interest, what happens, if on an older bike, with the VIN stamped into the frame, if the number has deteriorated and has become unreadable, can you have it, officially, reinstated?
The reason I ask is, on my 30+ year old traillie the frame has been powder coated, I had to scrape this away to reveal the VIN, which is not pristine because the frame had been blasted before the powder coating. |
When you input the details at the start of the test, it asks for the index and the last six digits of the VIN, then compares your input with the database - if there is a discrepancy, it won't let you proceed.
If you were to reinstate your VIN, eg with a Dremel, providing it matches the existing information, you're all good.
I should also add that a VIN is only required on vehicles used after 01/08/1999, so you don't need to worry about it at all.
It's not an MOT tester's place to report 'iffy' VINs, if it all matches up, that's it.
As an example, I used to test a 7/11 where the VIN consisted of six digits, applied to the frame with hand punches - it matched the database, so I had no option but to pass it.
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | Shaft wrote: | It's not an MOT tester's place to report 'iffy' VINs, if it all matches up, that's it.
As an example, I used to test a 7/11 where the VIN consisted of six digits, applied to the frame with hand punches - it matched the database, so I had no option but to pass it. |
Thanks for the reply.
This is not aimed at you, but it makes you realise how easy it would be to 'ring' a bike! |
If you have the information lodged on the database, then it's a piece of piss.
It's something I've always felt a bit uncomfortable about, but then we aren't the Police and if I refused to test a bike on a point of principle, no doubt the bloke down the road would test it, so I might as well take the money and run.
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When you input the details at the start of the test, it asks for the index and the last six digits of the VIN, then compares your input with the database - if there is a discrepancy, it won't let you proceed.
If you were to reinstate your VIN, eg with a Dremel, providing it matches the existing information, you're all good.
As an example, I used to test a 7/11 where the VIN consisted of six digits, applied to the frame with hand punches - it matched the database, so I had no option but to pass it. |
As a small point, the numbers on the vehicle don't need to match the Database. If the Vin you enter doesn't match it'll ask again if you tell it the same number it will prompt you to make an entirely new entry to test the vehicle.
Then the owner will be issued with a certificate for the Registration and VIN you entered, then a whole process kicks in where they contact the keeper of the registration with 2 vins logged against it to check which is correct.
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