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nightshaddow
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 02 Sep 2017    Post subject: need help with a clutch Reply with quote

I have the ns 125 r and had my first real failure in 4 years with it, riding it and suddenly couldn't select gears stuck in 3rd and 4th,

straight away knew it was a selector mech problem and when stripped low and behold

https://i64.tinypic.com/15n3b68.jpg

as you can see the drum stopper wheel has come away and thanks to the power of eBay and a few penny's i now have a replacement the only problem is the tool to remove the peg nut still hasn't arrived

is there anyone around york who has the tool to remove, or anyone with any tips on how to remove this nut in the centre of the clutch

https://i68.tinypic.com/2jfdati.jpg
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Pete.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 02 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butcher an old socket with a mini grinder. 10 minutes work.
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nightshaddow
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 02 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried that one, but this sucker is on tight, supposed to be torqued to 70Nm but i have had my 600mm breaker and no go?
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Tankie
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 02 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warm the nut up with a gas torch, it will expand, also if it has been Loctited on this will breakdown at 220 deg c
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lihp
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tankie wrote:
also if it has been Loctited on this will breakdown at 220 deg c


Never knew that every single loctite product had the same temperature resistance. Or all thread locking compounds for that matter.

Interesting.....
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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same castle nut as the 125 Super-Dreams I suspect. Certaily typical Honda specific niggle.

I Castigated an brand new socket to make spanner to undo fist one; wasn't a 5'min job... and it did work, but far from easily.

With umpety more motors to do, I tracked down the propper castle-socket.. and it is a doddle... after locking the clutch with a bit of old ali glazing bar in the gears and getting some-one rather hefty to sit the back of the bike to stop the whole damn bike twisting... and a 'dowh!' returning to the castle nut lock-washer and making sure it IS properly hammered out of the way with a thin drift.

Tacking down the correct castle nut spanner, was somewhat more convoluted than expected.and a lot of questions had to be asked of e-bay vendors after checking the CMSL microfishe, narrowing down the field to zero a few times, before I actually found one. ISTR I got one in the end, and it was actually cheaper than replacing the socket I'd ground down to make first tool! And I am also quite sure I didn't get it from DSS, who are usually pretty good for such stuff, and would be first port of call....

However... bottom line is that the nut itself is under a tenner, and more readily available than tool... so bottom line when faced with same problem, and a pre-butchered nut ISTR on the seven fifty, was to butcher it out with grinder and hammer, and replace nut..
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
I Castigated a brand new socket

Wot? You gave it a good telling off?
You heartless bastard, you.
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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuffin Nora wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
I Castigated a brand new socket

Wot? You gave it a good telling off?
You heartless bastard, you.
Sad


Lol.. usually looking for stuff with a red squiggly line rather than without.... but worse than that, I drew a bottom line and ground it down till it played ball, dropped it cos it burned me, and chucked it in a box for a time-out!
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuffin Nora wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
I Castigated a brand new socket

Wot? You gave it a good telling off?
You heartless bastard, you.
Sad


There's times I'd like to castigate Teffer's English teacher, then castellate the kunt for good measure!
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 03 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I broke down and bought a clutch nut tool off Ebay for about a tenner that has two ends on it. You fit it to a socket handle and hope for the best. One side fitted my clutch nut and eventually worked but it was an effort. I have no idea what size it was but I'm sure the advert said something about universally fitting Hondas among other things.
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