Side stand longevity?

[ThunderGuts]

I'm being led to believe it's "normal" for a side stand pivot to wear out every few years and with sub 5 figure mileages (don't want to mention the marque or the dealer) - is this a load of rubbish, or reasonable? Replacement parts are well into three figures and only available OEM. Modern bike by the way, although that's probably given for this sort of issue.

Cheers.
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TG.

[Freddyfruitba...]

Sounds a bit shit to me... are you by any chance doing that thing where you turn the bike round by balancing/spinning it on the sidestand?
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[Bloggsy]

As long as the side stand pivot get's a bit of lube, it should last for ever I have a 12 year old Yamaha MT-03 and the side stand is still going strong
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If It Aint broke Don't Fix It

[reavsie]

In nearly 40 years and over 350,000 miles on bikes I've never had a side stand or pivot issue. A couple of those bikes were close on 100k and pretty much all of them passed the 10k mark.

Or have I just been lucky?
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[MarJay]

[ThunderGuts]

[stinkwheel]

Seems excessive.

Sure there isn't an engineering solution to fix the existing one? Like fitting a sleeve/busing etc?
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[ThunderGuts]

[Riejufixing]

[stinkwheel]

If it's under warranty then yes, go for it. If it's not, post pics. There's probably a design fault so simply replacing it is just asking for a repeat performance.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[boundy]

[xX-Alex-Xx]

Never had an issue, and I use mine to do zero point turns all the time.
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DILLIGAF

[Weisse Schlange]

35 yrs riding and never had an issue. Crappy side stand switches yes, but stand failure, nah ! not buying that dealers crap at all.
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Hing Oan

[ThunderGuts]

It's a Honda. Told you it was embarrassing. It's literally a few days out of warranty but the issue was raised a little while ago.

Update anyway, took it apart and cleaned it up (lube is definitely not an issue as excess chain lube dribbles over it). So few things; the bolt isn't a perfect fit into the bracket on the frame, but to compound matters neither are the lugs on the side stand arm itself a good fit to the bracket. The hole in the bracket wasn't visibly ovalled and nor was there any other apparent wear signs. Maybe it's supposed to have play in it but other owners suggest not, or at least not much. Managed to work out an "engineering" solution (quotes because it's a tad Heath Robinson); fabricated a washer out of a PET bottle and popped this on one side of the bracket. Slathered it in grease and put back together. The stand is a tiny tiny bit stiff (but will doubtless loosen up in use) but all play has gone and the stand is solid. PET is usually pretty resistant to compression, so hopefully it'll have some life, but even if it fails it'll be sacrificial and cheap/easy to replace.

Time will tell, but looking at the bracket etc. I'm not convinced a replacement will be much different as it didn't look worn/mis-shapen.

Cheers for the input everyone.
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[NJD]

Maybe I've not been around long enough but the only trouble I'd expect from a side-stand would be corrosion around where the stand is welded to the foot plate, or on the foot-plate itself; therefore meaning it needed to be repaired via welding or replaced. Or, as above, with the side-stand switch due to corrosion again.

I don't think anyone buys a bike thinking they'd have to pay £100 or more every "few" years for it be repaired.
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[SirFallalot]

Have the same with a 93 CB400 but it's got about 50k miles,it just causes the bike to lean too much but it's liveable, haven't gotten around to fix it.
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[hellkat]

[Islander]

I can't say I've ever seen a side stand wear out in any of the bikes we've owned over the years.

[stinkwheel]

I will say some sidestands seem a bit wobbly side-to-side until they have weight on them.

A plastic shim would seem a reasonable solution if it bothers you. A nylon washer would probably be best.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[jeffyjeff]

[ThunderGuts]