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That'll buff out.
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if you was in India. you would have would fabricated a new piston out of scrap by now.
Its amazing how them guys keep there old bikes running |
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Araldite is much more superior to JB Weld (which is outdated shite)
But Belzona is vastly superior to both.
I'd go with Belzona 1111 for that repair.
Advantages:
Simple to mix.
Machinable.
Resistant to most chemicals and moderate temperatures.
Well done on catching that before it developed into something more serious.
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can you just put an ohlins sticker over the bad bit? ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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I'll raise you a valve  |
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| skatefreak wrote: | I'll raise you a valve  |
I don't know how to break this too you, but that head may not be salvageable..
.. Chinese? ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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I think the F401 is the genuine item on the engine case.
chinese one start with K157FM or QJ157 etc.
(k - manufacturer)
(1 - single cylnider)
(57 = bore)
(suffix = designation/cooling/havent figured it out yet) ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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you can't kid me - that's a different head  ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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| jeffyjeff wrote: | to my untrained eye, I would guess that a piece of the piston ring broke off, perhaps due to insufficient end gap, and began working against the ring groove until the groove started to hog out. Likely to be corresponding damage to the cylinder bore to match. |
The piston seized in the bore and a bit of piston ring squished itself into one side of the piston, leaving the other side sticking out. The other cylinder was fine though, and spun the crank right through its revolutions, breaking the seized piston. That's what I think happened, because there's still a piece of ring lodged in the damaged piston, which is too tight to remove.
The problem is that we're end-users and not trained eyes. Then again, Kawasaki had no idea we'd still be using them 40 years on...
I'm only fixing this to show it didn't defeat me and I didn't quit on it because of laziness or gross ineptitude. Like you and everyone else here, I try to do everything as competently as possible when it comes to bikes. I follow the manuals and try to educate myself using Youtube, this forum and other forums, and by direct consultation with experts, engineers and experienced people. I didn't fit these pistons and rings originally. I simply assumed they were good. I put a good few thousand miles on them. It's possible whoever put them on didn't gap the rings properly. I have to also consider the possibility of a lean condition as some point contributing to overheating and seizure.
Ultimately, bikes are meant for riding, not fixing, and from talking to people who are well into vintage bikes, there seems to be a kind of kudos or pride in fixing them. There are also Youtube channels where people do deep analysis to the damage on piston skirts, etc. And lots of people who replace the seals on their favourite bike engines every year. I'm not really into that, tbh. I just like riding them. This is a properly defunct and obsolete technology. I get how they work, but they aren't that special to me because they all do the same thing at the end of the day. It's been a good run - lovely sounds and experiences. But from here on in, this is it for me. New bikes ONLY. I am so done.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 180 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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