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BillyJ
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: ZZR400 De-restriction Reply with quote
Are they all restricted to 114kph via the speedo?

Wouldn't go over 100kph, put in kph to mph converter, now wont go over 60mph, so same speed but different needle position.

Is it likely that it is restricted in top gear to a certain RPM?

I am vaguely familiar with the M Max boxes for bypassing the restrictor but should I take the clocks apart to see if there is a different restricting mechanism in there as the converter didn't seem to fix it?
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wr6133
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is a pink wire going to the CDI, cut it and shove a resistor on it. Full detailed instructions are on zzr international.

It sounds like something is (very) wrong with yours though, the converter trick should have worked. Is it limiting to 10k RPM in each gear?... if so that means someone badly bodged a bypass and the failsafe has kicked in.

Easiest way is just swap the CDI for a ZZR600 part (600D CDI if you have a 400k, or 600E CDI if you have a 400N).
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BillyJ
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very helpful, thank you Karma Thumbs Up

It stops at 10K RPM.

I can't get on to zzr international, been trying for a day but the page just times out.

So I put a resistor in line with the pink wire? And what resistor value?

EDIT: Got in through a proxy for some reason, I'll have a look now, thanks again Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
BillyJ wrote:
Very helpful, thank you Karma Thumbs Up

It stops at 10K RPM.


If it's 10k in every gear that would be the failsafe for the limiter. Means some potato has tried to bypass it and screwed up. Topping out at 60 though in top even with the failsafe seems wrong though, unless you have non standard sprockets, mine had the failsafe due to prior owner bodgery when I bought it and I could still manage a ton (just) in top.

Ref using a resistor to bypass this is a paste from someone at zzr international


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There are a few ways to bypass this, I'll tell you the easiest.
Fist, buy a 10kOhm resistor rated to at least 1W.
That's all you need...

If you take your seat off and look at your CDI/ignitor box you will find a pink wire going in to it.
Snip the wire at a reasonable length.
Put the end of the pink wire going to the CDI to the resistor.
Find a clean earth.
Connect the other side of the resistor to earth.
Tape up the unused pink wire just for safety etc.


You are going to need to find the prior bodge first though that is causing it to failsafe.

I ended up using a 600 CDI as mine had multiple snips at either end of the pink along with crap attempts at adding a resistor and in the end I couldn't be arsed making it all right. I think I paid about £20 for the CDI, as the 600 has no restriction it just ignores any feed from the pink.

You have a K or N model?
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mine is the one with no fuel pump, I believe that's the K model

Is this what I want?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZZR600-D-CDI-Ignitor-Box-/191602025896?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c9c5ee5a8
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
BillyJ wrote:
Mine is the one with no fuel pump, I believe that's the K model

Is this what I want?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZZR600-D-CDI-Ignitor-Box-/191602025896?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c9c5ee5a8


That's the one just plugs right in.

K model is the no pump, downsleeved 600d (1990-1992). I have one too.

If you want PDF's of the kwak workshop manual and the Haynes (for the 600 but almost all the same) PM me an email address and I'll send them when I get time.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Japanese market speed restriction was at 180kmh, which is 112mph.

All the best

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PostPosted: 07:51 - 28 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry to bump an old post but....

I am looking to upgrade my tired 400k motor with a 600d I have acquired (motor only, no loom or anything)
By being able to use the 600d CDI on the 400k, would that mean I could use my Japanese spec 400k CDI with a 600d motor or do I need to find a 600d CDI?
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 28 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don’t resurrect 9 year old posts. It’s very impolite.

I doubt the 400 ignition parts will work on the 600 engine. Honestly 600s are so damn cheap right now you’d be better off selling the 400 and buying a 600. Insurance will be easier and you won’t have to mess with registration and so on.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 28 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Natman2002nz wrote:
Sorry to bump an old post


So why do it?
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PostPosted: 04:38 - 29 May 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Natman2002nz wrote:
Sorry to bump an old post but....

I am looking to upgrade my tired 400k motor with a 600d I have acquired (motor only, no loom or anything)
By being able to use the 600d CDI on the 400k, would that mean I could use my Japanese spec 400k CDI with a 600d motor or do I need to find a 600d CDI?


Head over to https://www.zxrworld.co.uk/zxr400oc/
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