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| LustyLew |
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I had a viper can on my bandit when I bought it. Used to do the same thing. Not quite sure what the reason behind it is though.
I took my can off and replaced it with the legal one when I started commuting into London. ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls  |
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| tribal_tiger |
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Hell my CG clone does this with a standard system, though only since one of the bolts fell off
I think it's something to do with unburnt fuel hitting something hot and burning off somewhere, oh bugger it, i can't remember, somone else will tell you! ____________________ How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could Chuck Norris?
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| Method |
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My GS500 does it on a standard can and system.
Its just because your running a little richer than normal (as wave said).
Personally i love the sound, its pretty cool!
Well, its better than the backfiring i used to get because it was running seriously rich  ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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| Raffles_Gentleman Thug |
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| veeeffarr |
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| Method wrote: | My GS500 does it on a standard can and system.
Its just because your running a little richer than normal (as wave said).
Personally i love the sound, its pretty cool!
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Let me get this straight...
Rich = Too much fuel
Lean = Too much air
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Well Basically.
But to be precise
Lean = Weaker Fuel to Air Ratio - Caused by too much air making its way into the combustion chamber compared to the amount of fuel
Rich = Stronger Fuel to Air Ratio - Caused by too much fuel making its way into the combustion chamber compared to the amount of air ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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| RealNinja |
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Yup thats the one
It's known as overrun (I think) and is quite normal, plus in the dark you will get flames from the end of the can  ____________________ You will become my force of retribution. Where you tread, doom will follow. Go now and claim your destiny |
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| Method |
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 Method World Chat Champion

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I think the ideal Air to Fuel ratio is something like
14.7 : 1 (Petrol Engine)
Its been a while since i did this with Volkswagen, so yeah  ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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The stoichiometric ratio for petrol is 14.7, so for every kg of petrol you'll need 14.7 kg of air. Most engines are set up to run slightly lean, so as to reduce pollution (an abundance of oxygen improves the chances that most/all of the petrol will get burnt). Since the advent of fuel injection and catalytic converters, the aim is to get it as close to the stoichiometric ratio as possible, but still allowing enough oxygen down the exhaust for the oxidation catalyst to work (it needs oxygen to burn the CO and unburnt hydrocarbons). The reduction catalyst reduces the NO back into molecular nitrogen.
Catalytic converters have to be hot to work. Don't take a cold car to an MOT or there's a good chance it'll fail on emissions. ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 265 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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