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yambabe
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Bad riding habits Reply with quote

You got any?

Since I got out on the 400 (nearly 3 weeks now! Very Happy ) I realised yesterday I am trying to feather the front brake into corners! Shocked

I think this is cos I approached a few too fast when I first went out and had to brake last minute, but it really concerns me that I'm trying to lean/corner with the brakes on, I am now having to say to myself "no brake no brake no brake" in a sort of chant as I approach........ Embarassed

Hopefully I will cure myself of this very quickly (cos I just know if I don't, the first time I do it in the wet I'm going to be off) but I just wondered if anyone else has any bad habits, and what you do to try and break them?
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using cycle lanes on the dual carridge way to undertake

Filtering tapping the tank with both hands

Playing the 'Now you see me, now you don't' game behind police vans

Trying to wheelie from most traffic lights

Using the cut out switch (back fire) for shaking up chav's

Using obsene gestures to any motorist who makes a mistake



It must be the heat.....sorry Twisted Evil Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i take it your not ment to brake when you are leaning into the corner ? Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speeding, undertaking, going around blind corners too fast, overtaking on double white lines, filtering too fast...
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feathering the brake into corners isn't a mega idea as it can go wrong, but I abmit its something I do when im riding fast.
All depends on the situation.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
Feathering the brake into corners isn't a mega idea as it can go wrong, but I abmit its something I do when im riding fast.
All depends on the situation.


If you really feel like you have to brake mid corner just use a touch of the rear brake. In reality, you probably don't need to brake and could probably speed up quite a bit if you wanted to - all you need to do is lean the bike further.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When im riding fast, I run the brake as I tip into the corner, that takes of 3-4mph extra, can't have brake on to hard or it will unsettle the bike to much and or make you lose the front.

Its something you can learn, and use to great effect.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still cover the back brake every time I change up a gear after a bike I owned some 9 years ago which did a power wheelie nearly every time you changed gear.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found that I don't actually need to use the brake 90% of the time that I was. For me it became part of the procedure when changing down gear or setting up for the corner but at the revs the bike does the engine braking is more than enough. I've heard it called 'comfort braking' i.e just for peace of mind you scrub some speed off with the brake.
With a bit of self discipline I can get away without using it at all really apart from pulling up to a stop at roundabouts.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking tips of forums. Laughing


Only joking. Err....I don't really have any Bad riding habits. Well, I suppose indicating while checking mirrors rather than after checking mirrors.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
after a bike I owned some 9 years ago which did a power wheelie nearly every time you changed gear.

And that's a bad thing Confused.

It's suprising how far and hard you can brake into the corners on a well set up bike.

Personally, I try to avoid it on the road if it at all possible - giving maximum possible grip for the tyres incase there's a problem with the road surface or similar.

To get over 'bad habits' (in my case, not braking into the corners on track, say Smile ), I'll try and push back the point I'm braking further and further each lap.
Alternatively, I'll try and brake at the same point, but brake lighter each time.

So if you find you want to brake into corners are already going the right speed, try to force yourself to brake lighter and for less time, to slowly ween yourself off it Smile.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too find myself easing on the front brake slightly whilst entering a corner. I'm new to my bike so I'm still getting used to it and am still unsure on its cornering abilities - although it's a 400 so it should be fine I just need to get the nerves out of the way first.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i give it some welly out of a corner in a set of twisties i find myself changing up on exit then having to immediately downshift for the next corner Embarassed , i should just leave it in the gear i exited in and simply shut the gas off prior to entry to the next.
I always seem to unsettle the bike going into the corner, one day i will really pay the price for this.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamikaze overtaking on country roads, this time of year is full of dawdling retards in camper vans though Confused Laughing
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
after a bike I owned some 9 years ago which did a power wheelie nearly every time you changed gear.

And that's a bad thing Confused.


It is if you don't bring it back down before the powerband kicks in. Tends to leave you with either 'lahtneR' or 'ahamaY' stamped into your forehead depending on your seating position at the time of the incident.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find my bad habits are trying to get home from work as fast as I can and wearing only a t-shirt and jeans in this lovely weather.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I still cover the back brake every time I change up a gear after a bike I owned some 9 years ago which did a power wheelie nearly every time you changed gear.


What sort of bike was that?
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
I still cover the back brake every time I change up a gear after a bike I owned some 9 years ago which did a power wheelie nearly every time you changed gear.


What sort of bike was that?


Im guess some sort of Yamaha and due to mention on Renthal bars are supermoto type bike. Though i could be wrong Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using too much front brake too deep into corner's and upto lights and not enough rear brake and engine braking.

Picked up the habit from riding my little 125, adjusting a bit now though.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not /enough/ rear brake?

I've always kinda taken the 'correct' amount of rear brake to be around 0%, unless you're deep in a corner.

Much better to sort out how you try and approach corners on the road, if you need to use the brakes midway, in my opinion.

Stinkwheel:
I did kinda land on my arse while trying to keep a non-powervalved 350 2 stroke level at altitude on a bumpy field, but hitting you in the face is good otherwise - gives you more revs to play with while you're up there! Razz
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using too much back brake and not enough front brake when needing to heavily brake Confused .
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
Kamikaze overtaking on country roads, this time of year is full of dawdling retards in camper vans though Confused Laughing


Fair play, you are the king of dodgy overtakes Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:

What sort of bike was that?


A stage 3 tuned, 375cc overbored RD350YPVS streetfighter (painted gold metalflake purple).

It was a very stupid bike to buy for just after I passed my test. It was group 11 insurance (out of a possible 15 at that time) without having declared the modifications (which were substantial and did not include better brakes).

Steep learning curve but I'm still here (largely because I couldn't afford to put 4* petrol in it at 20mpg, unleaded wasn't an option due to the state of tune.)
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 17 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tend to pull the clutch in when i go around corners and let the bike coast (i think because i used to race in motorcross and used to do this going around tight corners) and i am ashamed to say harldy ever do the lifesaver just use my mirrors, but this is a habbit i NEED to get into doing because one day a car will have me off, i juts plain forget most of the time, actuyally thinking about writing it on a piece of paper and sticking it to my rev counter
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 18 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to pull the clutch in when I first got a bike.

A bad thing to do if you're a bit nervous about a corner, because the bike suspension doesn't work nearly as well, making it feel worse.
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